Why we need immigrants

I'm not aware of any archeological evidence of humans or humanoids inhabiting any part of the Americas before some Asiatics walked and paddled eastwards across the Bering Strait towards the end of the most recent Ice Age, a dozen-ish millennia before cousins of my Scandinavian ancestors sailed and paddled westwards from Iceland and Greenland about 1000 CE. And long long before any suspected Chinese or Pacific Islanders might also have sailed over.

That remains undetermined, we don't yet know whether or not they contributed to the demise of those critters. Non-anthropomorphic climate change might still have done it without human help. Even if they did, their several extirpations over several millennia pale in comparison to what we have done in just the most recent century.

Standards for civil human behavior are much tighter today than 13,000 years ago, or 1,000 years ago, or 400 years ago, or even just 75-85 years ago.

The previous non-white North American population was decreased by something on the order of 90% by the arrival of white Europeans.

 

We have plenty of emigrants here ever since they came here to Anahuac before they called it "america"

Anyone who is not a native "Mexican" is an emigrant on this land.

 

... or will be, if they leave ....

 

What land, exactly?

To emigrate means to leave one's country to live in another. Immigrate is to come into another country to live permanently. Migrate is to move, like birds in the winter. The choice between emigrate, immigrate, and migrate depends on the sentence's point of view.....
(leaving overt racism out of the picture for now....)

We have three kinds if folks in my extended family.
Citizens, both 'natural born' and 'naturalized' and non citizens that are legal permanent residents.
These are sometimes called 'green card' holders because of the way that those (Form i-551) cards look.

Permanent Residents are not citizens,
Aliens (any one of three varieties) are another subject.....

 

It might have been different if they weren't anit-vaxers.

Ford was on his way out before the ink was dry on Nixon's pardon, because people back then had 'NDS' which was a very VERY mild and less fatal form of the present-day variant, TDS.

You're old enough to remember that, outside of a VFW people didn't give that much of a rats about the draft dodgers in Canada, unless they were trying to use them for political advantage - much like people today are doing with illegal aliens.

 

@ETC(SS)

Pretty sure I was clear when I said america.

So this land "america" was called Anahuac.

Anyone who is not a native "Mexican" is a migrant, immigrants and emigrants.

 

Unless you're using a chemically expanded version of the US English language, I'm pretty sure I'm not an 'emigrant'
(a person who leaves their own country in order to settle permanently in another) an 'immigrant ' or other such person - many of these having JUST AS MUCH of a right to become a citizen of this country as I do.

Maybe read Bob's post below.
If you're engaged in some kind of Pre-Columbian civilization grievance struggle session, that's fine but if you're going to question MY right to live here you're going to get in line behind the Shawnee.
They were the Native American people of the Northeastern Woodlands who actually put up a good fight to keep whitey from settling there.
Meanwhile, MY people (according to data that some of my blood kin were foolish enough to pay someone to exploit) were minding their own business growing sauerkraut and brewing beer in Bavaria until the US Civil War where AS ALWAYS, America extended an opportunity for people to trade an honourable discharge certificate and a little hard work for an earned citizenship.

 

I was not saying you are but if the shoe fits.

Also the term native american is incorrect.

They are all native Anahuacans, which are all "Mexicans".

Also the term indian is incorrect as columubus thought he landed in India.

You cant be a native american when it did not exist and it was called Anahuac.

 

i thought indian meant native

 

I grew up in a time when non-Native Americans called them some pretty nasty names, so I'm getting off of the 'Mexican Appropriation Struggle Bus' now. I will let Native Americans decide how they should be addressed - and Mexicans in like manner.
As a mostly white person of mostly German heritage I simply claim no agency and give no rats.

 

You are confused like columbus calling the natives indians, a "native american" is a "mexican" any native that has done a DNA test like 23&me will see it leads them to and points to current day Mexico.

Surely they couldnt point to "america" or Anahuac as it truely was called by all natives. Because then that would be rubbing salt in the wound.

 

i thought the earliest known humans came from the north after proceeding east?

 

They did, apparently trailing thousands of years of developing culture step by step. The years are mind boggling. Generations lived and died in areas they must have seen as the whole world. But it was a land bridge now under water for the earliest ones.

 

There is recent evidence (carbon dating) of early people’s off the central west coast of NA on island systems “too early “ for all humans to be only land bridge travelers.

The belief is that they must have boated along the edge of the frozen coast building settlements on the islands before the mainland defrosted.

 

Related to that, I'd heard of problematic dates at an inland Pacific Northwest site also suggestive of the earliest humans needing to have boated around that an ocean-reaching glacier, before it melted back to where they could have walked here along the coast. That is why my earlier post included "paddled". Though I'm not in any position to judge among competing views of this.

 

can anyone fix the title, or do we need people to leave?

 

I'd be careful...
The Lancet: Dramatic declines in global fertility rates set to transform global population patterns by 2100 | Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation

 

being careful is the root cause of the problem