What stupid wedge issue will the Republicans employ in 2006?

larkinmj · May 17, 2006

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Never realized there were so many totally irrational Bush hating liberals around. Just read the list of possible Democratic candidates and not one, not one (except perhaps Lieberman) has the intelligence to be the POTUS. God help us if it happens. You guys are living in lala land. Especially the impeach Bush crowd.
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I guess that everyone that is dissatisfied with the performance of this president is "irrational" and "living in lala land"? If the latest polls are correct, that would be, what, over 70% of the nation? I'm so glad that at least you are rational when everyone else is "living in lala land."

dbermanmd · May 17, 2006

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Articles of Impeachment

of

President George W. Bush

and

Vice President Richard B. Cheney,
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice,
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. - - ARTICLE II, SECTION 4 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales have committed violations and subversions of the Constitution of the United States of America in an attempt to carry out with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes and deprivations of the civil rights of the people of the United States and other nations, by assuming powers of an imperial executive unaccountable to law and usurping powers of the Congress, the Judiciary and those reserved to the people of the United States, by the following acts:

1) Seizing power to wage wars of aggression in defiance of the U.S. Constitution, the U.N. Charter and the rule of law; carrying out a massive assault on and occupation of Iraq, a country that was not threatening the United States, resulting in the death and maiming of over one hundred thousand Iraqis, and thousands of U.S. G.I.s.

2) Lying to the people of the U.S., to Congress, and to the U.N., providing false and deceptive rationales for war.

3) Authorizing, ordering and condoning direct attacks on civilians, civilian facilities and locations where civilian casualties were unavoidable.

4) Instituting a secret and illegal wiretapping and spying operation against the people of the United States through the National Security Agency.

5) Threatening the independence and sovereignty of Iraq by belligerently changing its government by force and assaulting Iraq in a war of aggression.

6) Authorizing, ordering and condoning assassinations, summary executions, kidnappings, secret and other illegal detentions of individuals, torture and physical and psychological coercion of prisoners to obtain false statements concerning acts and intentions of governments and individuals and violating within the United States, and by authorizing U.S. forces and agents elsewhere, the rights of individuals under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

7) Making, ordering and condoning false statements and propaganda about the conduct of foreign governments and individuals and acts by U.S. government personnel; manipulating the media and foreign governments with false information; concealing information vital to public discussion and informed judgment concerning acts, intentions and possession, or efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction in order to falsely create a climate of fear and destroy opposition to U.S. wars of aggression and first strike attacks.

8) Violations and subversions of the Charter of the United Nations and international law, both a part of the "Supreme Law of the land" under Article VI, paragraph 2, of the Constitution, in an attempt to commit with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes in wars and threats of aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq and others and usurping powers of the United Nations and the peoples of its nations by bribery, coercion and other corrupt acts and by rejecting treaties, committing treaty violations, and frustrating compliance with treaties in order to destroy any means by which international law and institutions can prevent, affect, or adjudicate the exercise of U.S. military and economic power against the international community.

9) Acting to strip United States citizens of their constitutional and human rights, ordering indefinite detention of citizens, without access to counsel, without charge, and without opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention, based solely on the discretionary designation by the Executive of a citizen as an "enemy combatant."

10) Ordering indefinite detention of non-citizens in the United States and elsewhere, and without charge, at the discretionary designation of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Defense.

11) Ordering and authorizing the Attorney General to override judicial orders of release of detainees under INS jurisdiction, even where the judicial officer after full hearing determines a detainee is wrongfully held by the government.

12) Authorizing secret military tribunals and summary execution of persons who are not citizens who are designated solely at the discretion of the Executive who acts as indicting official, prosecutor and as the only avenue of appellate relief.

13) Refusing to provide public disclosure of the identities and locations of persons who have been arrested, detained and imprisoned by the U.S. government in the United States, including in response to Congressional inquiry.

14) Use of secret arrests of persons within the United States and elsewhere and denial of the right to public trials.

15) Authorizing the monitoring of confidential attorney-client privileged communications by the government, even in the absence of a court order and even where an incarcerated person has not been charged with a crime.

16) Ordering and authorizing the seizure of assets of persons in the United States, prior to hearing or trial, for lawful or innocent association with any entity that at the discretionary designation of the Executive has been deemed "terrorist."

17) Engaging in criminal neglect in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, depriving thousands of people in Louisiana, Mississippi and other Gulf States of urgently needed support, causing mass suffering and unnecessary loss of life.

18) Institutionalization of racial and religious profiling and authorization of domestic spying by federal law enforcement on persons based on their engagement in noncriminal religious and political activity.

19) Refusal to provide information and records necessary and appropriate for the constitutional right of legislative oversight of executive functions.

20) Rejecting treaties protective of peace and human rights and abrogation of the obligations of the United States under, and withdrawal from, international treaties and obligations without consent of the legislative branch, and including termination of the ABM treaty between the United States and Russia, and rescission of the authorizing signature from the Treaty of Rome which served as the basis for the International Criminal Court.

Source: impeachbush.org
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They neglected the following charges:

1. for failure to cure cancer
2. for causing floods in New England
3. for not erradicating unemployment
4. for failure to make Spanish the official language of the United States
5. for supporting the overthrow of the Taliban and the irresponsible establishment of womens rights in afghanistan
6. for placing the most minorities in Cabinet level positions in US history
7. for expanding social programs to include medical drug coverage to medicare recipients
8. for overseeing the removal of syrian troops from lebanon - and the loss of additional black prisons there
9. for appointing white males to the Supreme Court
10. for winning two national elections in spite of his inability to speak in public demonstrationg just how banckrupt the democratic party is.
11. for not receiving oral sex in the oral office
12. for defending American interests and lives
13. for killing terrorists
14. for discovering the food for oil scandal
15. for not allowing Iran to develop nuclear weapons
16. for not replacing mayor nagrin prior to hurricane katrina
17. for creating 10 million new jobs
18. for decreasing taxes
19. for breathing
20. for not being a gay married transsexual
21. for being responsible for global warming
22. for not lying under oath
23. for not railing against or blaming America for all the worlds ills
24. for trying to protect America against further terror attacks
25. for not completely opening our borders to all that want to live here

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(larkinmj @ May 17 2006, 07:36 AM) [snapback]256763[/snapback]</div>

I guess that everyone that is dissatisfied with the performance of this president is "irrational" and "living in lala land"? If the latest polls are correct, that would be, what, over 70% of the nation? I'm so glad that at least you are rational when everyone else is "living in lala land."
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polls are cute - if they make you feel better - great - enjoy them for what they are worth.
rumor has it that the democrats are still the minority party
elections are real
last time the democrats won one??
and how many have the democrats won since 1968?
i wonder what fdr or truman or kennedy would think of the current democrats????
the party is self - destructing - and i would like to thank all the liberals with hate and venom ruling thier higher cortical processes. keep yelling impeach bush - please

eyeguy13 · May 17, 2006

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i wonder what fdr or truman or kennedy would think of the current democrats????
the party is self - destructing -
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You keep bringing up Truman, FDR, and Kennedy....let me ask you what do you think Nixon, Eisenhower or lets say, Lincoln, would say about Dubya? Just listen to Pat Buchanan, Christie Whitman, or Fukuyama (father of the Neocon movement), they'll tell you.

Yes, your current Neocon Republican party is self destructing (editors note: the 'self - destructing' quote is taken out of context, yes I know that, just couldn't help myself )

Good always out-trumps evil.

dsunman · May 17, 2006

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the party is self - destructing - and i would like to thank all the liberals with hate and venom ruling thier higher cortical processes. keep yelling impeach bush - please
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critiquing of authority is vital to the properly functioning society,
this has nothing to do with any party allegiance, it has everything to do with common sense and properly functioning cerebrum.

dbermanmd · May 17, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eyeguy13 @ May 17 2006, 08:23 AM) [snapback]256769[/snapback]</div>

You keep bringing up Truman, FDR, and Kennedy....let me ask you what do you think Nixon, Eisenhower or lets say, Lincoln, would say about Dubya? Just listen to Pat Buchanan, Christie Whitman, or Fukuyama (father of the Neocon movement), they'll tell you.

Yes, your current Neocon Republican party is self destructing (editors note: the 'self - destructing' quote is taken out of context, yes I know that, just couldn't help myself )

Good always out-trumps evil.
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First, I am not a republican, I am a conservative - big difference
Second, you are right, the republicans are self destructing by not controlling spending and expanding social programs too much. The other stuff is ok
Third, Good hopefully trumps evil - hence Saddam in jail; Bush defeats Kerry; Bush defeats Gore
Fourth, I dont think Nixon et al would be as surprised as to Bush's set of beliefs and operating system as (American concentration camp) FDR/ (Atom Bomb) Truman/ (tax cut) Kennedy would be in the current democratic operating system of gay marrage/ anti- NSA / anti-CIA / anti-military / pro-taxes / etc, etc.

You see every leader of each party always stood together during times of war - even during Vietnam. Now the democrats side more with our enemy than with our troops :-(

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critiquing of authority is vital to the properly functioning society,
this has nothing to do with any party allegiance, it has everything to do with common sense and properly functioning cerebrum.
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true - its how its done that separates the boys from the men.

stevedegraw · May 17, 2006

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(larkinmj @ May 15 2006, 02:59 PM) [snapback]255854[/snapback]</div>

That's the difference between liberals and right-wingers. No matter how much disgust and disdain we may have for a politician (Bush, Cheney, Rove, etc.), we would never wish that he be killed in a plane crash. Nice, kirbinster!
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Well maybe not wish for a plane crash....just an execution.

"And so basically, what it looks like is going to happen is that Libby and Karl Rove are going to be executedâ€ because â€œouting a CIA agent is treason,â€ left-wing author and radio talk show host Al Franken asserted Friday night, to audience laughter, on CBSâ€™s Late Show with David Letterman.

larkinmj · May 17, 2006

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Well maybe not wish for a plane crash....just an execution.

"And so basically, what it looks like is going to happen is that Libby and Karl Rove are going to be executedâ€ because â€œouting a CIA agent is treason,â€ left-wing author and radio talk show host Al Franken asserted Friday night, to audience laughter, on CBSâ€™s Late Show with David Letterman.
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Al Franken is a comedian (how funny he is, that's a matter of personal taste). The quote is taken out of context, and obviously was meant to be satirical. The point was that Libby and Rove had committed what would be considered, had it been done by someone else, and act of treason by the government. No one is suggesting that Karl Rove or Scooter Libby be executed. Whether or not kirbinster truly wished that Kennedy had died in a plane crash, the remark was clearly mean-spirited.

seeh2o · May 17, 2006

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Never realized there were so many totally irrational Bush hating liberals around. Just read the list of possible Democratic candidates and not one, not one (except perhaps Lieberman) has the intelligence to be the POTUS. God help us if it happens. You guys are living in lala land. Especially the impeach Bush crowd.
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Hey Sweet Pea, there are plenty of Republicans who don't like Bush, too.

According to a 5.4.06 poll on Fox news (anticipating that you would discount any news source other than Fox) Bush's ratings among those of his ilk, "At the beginning of the year, 80 percent of Republicans approved of the job Bush was doing; now thatâ€™s down to 66 percent. Itâ€™s a similar story among conservatives: 68 percent approved in early January and 54 percent approve now. "

See, we're not the only reasonable ones!

livelychick · May 17, 2006

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Never realized there were so many totally irrational Bush hating liberals around. Just read the list of possible Democratic candidates and not one, not one (except perhaps Lieberman) has the intelligence to be the POTUS. God help us if it happens. You guys are living in lala land. Especially the impeach Bush crowd.
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I can list several who have the intelligence to be the Prez.

Wes Clark (you cannot, in any way, denigrate this man's intelligence)
Hillary (she is incredibly intelligent, even if she's a polarizer)
Mark Warner
Joe Lieberman
John Edwards
Bill Richardson

So there's a short list...even though the other ones that I didn't include on this list (Bayh, Feingold, Kerry, Dodd, Biden) all have more intelligence than our current illustrious potentate . Haha...illustrious potentate. Would that that moniker be true with the current president.

eyeguy13 · May 17, 2006

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Third, Good hopefully trumps evil - hence Saddam in jail; Bush defeats Kerry; Bush defeats Gore

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That's really funny. Really. Equating evil with Gore and Kerry. I don't even know how to respond to that but laugh. Thanks. I'm reading this at lunch and this was a good pick-me-up after the lunch time food low.

IsrAmeriPrius · May 17, 2006

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Never realized there were so many totally irrational Bush hating liberals around.
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They are vastly out numbered by the zealously irrational Clinton hating neo-conservative crowd.

Godiva · May 17, 2006

If California is any kind of barometer, it's going to be money.

Right now the candidates for governor are being blasted for their "plans to raise taxes". Then they give a laundry list of every tax you can think of.

In the run for the 50th, (Randy "Duke" Cunningham's seat) it's also about money and budget. Plus there is some stuff related to lobbying.

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