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What are the defects of the Prius 2010?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by pakitt, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. going red baby!

    going red baby! still a n00b

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    I guess you found a place for your sundial then. :p
     
  2. going red baby!

    going red baby! still a n00b

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    Yes please!

    It's pretty odd that there's no indication. It's hard to tell unless you push it and see if it's now depressed or was before you pushed it. A dash light that stays on for those 30 seconds would allow you to check before you get out. Or better yet, a little light on the button itself that's on when the car is on and for those 30 seconds after you turn the car off.

    I find it unbelievable that a high tech car like this is so primitive for that tiny function.
     
  3. austingreen

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    I haven't found any defects, that is no things that don't work the way toyota intended, but there are numerous things that could have been done better.

    For a high tech car the instrumentation leaves a great deal to be desired. I would like a regular dial speedometer, as others have mentioned a tachometer and instantaneous mpg. The graphic with the engine and battery can be removed with a tach as others have mentioned. Add an indicator if the battery is charging or discharging which could be a color change and a number showing %charge. These and other display options would easily be built in without adding to cost. I understand I can get a scan guage, but I don't want to have a clipped on display.

    The power button does not do enough. It would be great if it would have the transmission sets to put the engine into a power band once the accelerator is pushed hard. It would likely charge the battery more often, so that there is plenty of juice for electronic assist.

    The brake pedal feels funky because of the regen versus using the physical braking areas. It would be nice if they made it feel more linear in the brake by wire, and calculate how much regeneration and disc braking should be applied.

    Options like 17" wheels, brushless motors, lights, and the Technology package should not require leather. Why does a sun roof require an outdated nav system and a stereo upgrade? Maybe a performance package which allows a tighter suspension and less steering assistance.

    Finally I'd like a more powerful electric motor and a higher capacity battery, but maybe that is in the 2015 plug in model.
     
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    Bob64 Sapphire of the Blue Sky

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    They don't have many "options" because they'd need a separate assembly line for each arrangement of options - which would drive up overall costs and make it more expensive for everyone.
     
  5. austingreen

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    I haven't been in a toyota factory, but that makes no sense. They don't go, 17" wheels and fog lamps on leather one line, 17" wheels and fog lamps no leather time to build a new line. It would have nothing to do with forcing Customers to buy a $2000 nav package if they want the cool moon roof. The less expensive matrix has split out options and lower sales volume.
     
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    Some of the arrangements of the controls are just bizarre--particularly the split outs.
    For example:
    Most transmission settings are on one lever, except Park is a button. The driving modes (EV, Eco, PWR) that you might want right there are somewhere else.
    Fan off is on the left side of the temperature display screen, but fan speed is on the other side and a different level.
    Most of the different ways to blow air around (lower vents, upper vents, split lower/defrost, etc.) are on a button uninformatively called "mode", but full defrost is a button somewhere else and the pollen filter is also somewhere else, with a very odd icon. The placement of the temperature setting above the FAN OFF button and nowhere near the AC or mode buttons makes no sense.

    And, oh yeah, the Owner's Manual appears to have been organized by the person who laid out all those controls.

    But the worst feature I've found is still the one I mentioned in an earlier post--the lack of a wide view rear window. With some playing around with the mirrors, I can just about get rid of the blind spot for cars on the driver's side, but I'm not sure that's true for something the size of motorcycles or bicycles--and I haven't figured out how to arrange things so that there's no significant blind spot on the passenger's side. It's bad when moving into the right lane from the left. Help anyone?
     
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    snead_c Jam Ma's Car

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    For this concern...
    haven't figured out how to arrange things so that there's no significant blind spot on the passenger's side. It's bad when moving into the right lane from the left. Help anyone?

    Have you looked into a small concave (I think, not convex?)located in a corner of your side view mirror ? These may be purchased at auto parts stores for a few dollars and experimented with. Good luck.
     
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    I'm guessing it does as mine is a RHD Prius and my drivers window (that would be your passenger side) does it too.

    Weird though.
     
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    Indyking Happy Hyundai owner...

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    Not having different EPA estimates for winter and summer... with mandatory displaying in certain states...

    Big mistake...
     
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    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    yep. noticed that and its only on the drivers door. the other 3 windows noticably slow down just before the top, the drivers door does not. i think the "closing" sensor is off.

    hmmm. yours does that?? mine doesnt


    Nav has it in the upper left hand corner. you can set it to "compass" mode or heads up.

    cant imagine anyone wanting to listen to that clicking sound!!

    i listen to the radio so rarely, so no comment on this. i have Sat radio sub for another 3-4 months. doubtful i will continue it. when driving alone, i never listen to it

    me too. on the 2006, i stored the ice scrapper, extra napkins, etc.


    ya, me too. a lot of people complain about rattling. i always have audio of sorts on, so i have turned it off and the only thing i hear is road noise, nothing else. i will say that on certain types of road surfaces, the noise is surprisingly loud.

    but then again, the only reason i noticed it is because i turned off the i pod.
     
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    Have you ever heard the sloshing from the 12v battery when you accelerate or brake? Sounds like a glub.
     
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    I completely agree. I just did a 2400 mile road trip, averaging 37 mpg over the last 1200 miles, all of which were highway, at or below the speed limit. EPA estimates per speed limit and temperature would be GREATLY appreciated. I would never have guessed the mpgs would be so poor in cold weather (my ignorance).
     
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    That's low enough that I question the condition of your 12v battery (based on what I have seen others experience here on PC when a battery is failing)... At least for highway driving, it should be up to operating temps quickly and stay that way, which I would expect to give you better mileage than that over 1200 mi.

    Some of the experts here may wish to weigh in on this as well, though.
     
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    When the windows are fogged up, the rubber seal doesn't wipe them dry when raised and lowered. That has always been one of my great joys abot a new car. Not with this one.
     
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    I understand what you mean, but it has an advantage that I have just been able to experiment during these cold days - the window does not remain stuck to the rubber seal and the window goes down without any apparent effort even after a -10C night with snow on the window.
    But I do miss the pull-down-wipe-window "feature" :)
     
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    Two additional things about the 2010 Prius have disappointed me.

    1. Though tolerably quiet, it is much less quiet than the 2006 Tundra double-cab pickup I owned.

    2. The suspension transmits considerably more perceived shock (roughness) and road noise than I think should be expected. The much heavier* Tundra had a far better "ride".
    *almost twice as heavy as the Prius
     
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    Has anyone suggested a "sticky" setting for PWR mode (just like ECO)?
     
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    Cosmetic change
    For the rear spoiler, go back to the Gen II where it was the color of the rest of the car.