VW Faces $17B Fine for Emissions Scam

should folks be equally disinclined to put much stock in someone's report that may very well have an agenda?
iduno - just wondering .... both sides seem to be armed with contradicting ammunition.



Last time I drove around London though, I didn't see any chimneys. But maybe I missed all / it ... a chimney .... presuming there actually was a chimney or two, they must be mighty smog powerful.
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I have never been to London, so I can't speak from personal experience. Clean Air for London is an environmental activist group, so I doubt it has any agenda as far as promoting diesel is concerned.

 

These folks

https://www.londonair.org.uk/london/asp/tools.asp

present a lot of data, summaries and tools. Nitrogen oxides and particles <10 microns.

 

Trucks can legally pollute through the glider loophole. @1953

There is a regulatory limit of 300 gliders per year but EPA Scott Pruitt declared that would not be enforced. At least through 2019.

On his last day in office

 

I think the 300 cap was the attempt to close the past loophole.

The courts may have halted Pruitt's declaration.

 

"courts may have halted"

What have you seen? It would be an interesting case WRT identifying a harmed person (etc.) who has standing to file suit.

 

It was filed by environmental groups.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/7/8/17544380/scott-pruitt-epa-truck-pollution-glider-kit-loophole&ved=2ahUKEwj_oKq32p_hAhWrVN8KHVHBC3UQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw28uF9FjeyICRrqfDk9K6FC&ampcf=1

 

Source: CARBON BUILDUP IN GDI ENGINES

Bob Wilson

 

Porsche fined nearly $600 million in VW Dieselgate scandal - Autoblog

 

nice, keep it coming

 

BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen charged by EU regulators with emissions collusion

 

Areas where more dieselgate cheating vehicles are registered have worse respiratory health:


The Limits of Forward Guidance - Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago


It is not peer reviewed. I suppose its meaningfulness depends on whether their experimental design would be found appropriate by epidemiologists.

 

Former Audi CEO arrested in Germany over diesel-scandal allegations

 

And the hits keep coming.

 

it's no problem, they're going electric now, all is forgiven

 

Yea, the electric chair.

 

Don't they need some 'primates' to study the effect of breathing diesel exhaust?

Bob Wilson

 

I do not doubt that @1977 was in jest. But if I may

Mammalian lungs are very similar in structure and function (did not say size). As such, research would probably be done on dogs because they are much cheaper to 'operate' than primates and with less regulatory oversight. Reg ovsght for humans is a nightmare*

Cardiac surgeons practice extensively on dogs (beagles among them it seems) before moving on to paying customers.


*But perhaps not for prison operators. Not sure how that has been going recently.

 

VW actually did use primates for research of diesel emissions, or had definite plans to do so.

 

... not just plans to test ... they got caught. And so typical width Volkswagen, they only canned somebody after they get caught.

VW suspends media chief amid scandal over fume tests on monkeys | Business | The Guardian
EDIT
Oh, and here's some more icing on the cake regarding Porsche
Porsche told EU not to publish diesel emission result
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