VW Faces $17B Fine for Emissions Scam

Puerto Rico is already in the queue. Iraq already knows it doesn't work as does the Philippines.

Bob Wilson

 

maybe greece is an option...

 

A nice ending for this thread or beginning of another: Make central London diesel-free to solve air pollution crisis – report | Environment | The Guardian

Bob Wilson

 

On the other hand:

Truck diesel emissions at Port of Oakland down 98 percent in past decade | Port of Oakland

 

that's great. now lets get the rest of the smokers off the road.

 

There are no technical barriers to diesels meeting our emissions standards. But VW (cheat dyno), Fiat (timer turn-off), and Mercedes (temperature turn-off) played too cute and now no one trusts them. Worse, the cities of Europe paid and are paying the price.

Bob Wilson

 

Is temperature turn-off gaming (i.e. cheating) not more dominant with Opel, Vauxhall and Renault-Nissan than with Mercedes?

 

Does it matter how much you cheet? ... or - is that how we tend to internalize that "Our company isn't so bad ... because companies like Enron are worse.
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Those who cheated big time should not be ignored.

 

In Europe that could be, but if the regulations allow such abuses, is the blame fully on the manufacturers?

 

The irony is they have air quality regulations and measurements of the air quality that are independent of vehicle emissions. The got so bad they had "no car" days thanks to the diesel overload.

Bob Wilson

 

I LOLed when I saw this Disgruntled Diesel VW Owners Are Stripping Their Cars Before Turning Them In.

 

VW confirms fix for Aussie cheating VW diesels... Note that VW states the fix does not affect fuel economy, power, and reliability. Pretty good given VW USA can't get the same fix and have to do a buy back.

Volkswagen Group Australia announces voluntary recall of 61,000 vehicles for diesel software fix

SM-G900I ?

 

That'll be because the US cars have to meet a far, far, far stricter standard.

 

I know that... But can you trust what they claim about fuel consumption, power, reliability of affected parts not impacted?

SM-G900I ?

 

They probably just cheated in a legal way, rather than an illegal one. Australia uses the European standards...

 

I think we are too lazy to find out whether the fix works or not. Euro4 is still in force, with Euro5 just being phased in last month.

SM-G900I ?

 

There is no viable fix regarding legal limits, Europe and Australia are definitely dead asleep on this matter.

 

Euro standard in most things is a pipe dream, dreamt up by politicians and bureaucrats. The one size fits all approach is only good while the sun is shining. Come the rains and the weaker zones collapse under the strain.

 

Agree that it seems they got away with it except for the usa.
On the bright side, there are indicatios that Europe starts to awake from its diesel ediction these days.

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