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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Oct 3, 2016.

  1. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    At least one poster liked their Jetta hybrid that they traded their TDI in for. The system is also close to Honda's double clutch hybrid and Hyundai's.

    VW just thought they could milk it for profit by offering only a fully loaded version, like they used to do with their TDIs.

    Full strength parallel hybrids might beat out power-split ones. That's Hyundai's bet. For proper operation, a power-split like HSD needs the main MG to be oversized. The MG2 of the Prius can use more power than the battery could ever supply. This increases cost. Then using a modified version of a transmission for a conventional ICE line up could also cost less than building a separate transaxle specific hybrid system.

    As for why a strong parallel hybrid didn't appear first. It seems the control systems for a consumer acceptable driving experience weren't up to snuff when the first Prius appeared. The required advances are only a recent development.

    Like the XC60 PHEV.

    You actually don't need a fast charge network for PHEVs to disappear. A liquid fueled fuel cell or Al-air battery range extender don't make a BEV a hybrid in the car type sense. A HEV, with or without plug, is a hybrid because there is an electric motor in addition to the ICE producing a motive force.

    A fuel cell or second battery type just provide a second electricity source for the single motive force on the car. Under accepted, regulatory definitions, they would be a bi-fuel car. Like an ICE one that has both a gasoline and CNG tank.
     
  2. mikefocke

    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    Porsche has announced their charger network will be Tesla compatible. Porsche electric car chargers to be Tesla-compatible
    "Now, Porsche and the rest of the VW group want to make progress by building a high-speed charging network available to everyone. Porsche boss Oliver Blume says the chargers his company is currently working on are compatible, after fitting an adapter, with Teslas."

    250 miles in 15 minutes! But $$$$$$!
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Well our local Porsche dealer has a Level 2 charger in their parking lot. It's a slow start.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I was looking at getting a Nissan Leaf in UK but after following online discussions I noticed that since the cutting back of Govt. incentives the cost of installing charge points was being recovered by pricing £10 ($13) for a 30 minute charge period. Equating that to approximately 100 miles, maybe less, just seemed more expensive than a guzzler unless you only had short journeys between free (?) charge points.:mad:
     
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    The point of EVs is not cheap driving, EVs must prove to be overall better cars.

    The main benefit of EV is to charge it at home, if this is not an option, there is Prius. ;)
     
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    the 'main benefit' of .... that's very subjective. Some say it's a way to kick gas addiction, some say it's to save a limited natural resource for future generations ... for some it's health/pollution/CO2 .... for orhers, its energy independence .... and some, it's better economics .... others - it's still something else of several different flavors. 'the benefit' .... it's different for everyone.

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    But really, it is all of these reasons.
     
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    For me, a BEV would be fine 85% of the time, but my family are dispersed more than 200 miles from us and so at the right price was out of the question, hence my Prius order. (ETA mid November) all being well! Economy for short commutes but pretty good for distance too. :)(y)
     
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