Viscosity? We don't need no stinkin' viscosity...

Now this is the spirit that I find lacking on this board! A sense of adventure and a drive to experiment!

But, you know, if you are willing to put your money where your mouth is, so am I. I'm going shopping for some 5w20!

 

Using the right weight oil and oil change interval per Toyota (or any other auto make) is simple and easy to understand, and doesn't need to be questioned whether it's right or wrong, because at a minimum, it is the right thing to do. You can have all the data in the world in front of you, but that's all it is unless you have extensive first hand "hands-on" research that will back up any theories the data may be pointing you to. Toyota didn't just stick a bunch of morons in room and said 'figure out the thing about oil' (let's hope not!). Their maintenance schedules are extensively well researched and thought out, and I haven't seen any evidence other than theory that it should be questioned. Case in point; 2 examples where research was NOT handled properly by an auto company: Ford Pinto gas tank, and GM ignition locks in certain models. In both cases, the auto companies had the data that should have led them to a different decision versus the one ultimately made to remedy the respective defect/problem.

 

I gave my opinion, my facts, my reasons, my whys already. Just because you disagree doesn't mean I didn't write my back ups. My responses are not necessarily what might be expected and that should be more than ok. Thanks.

 

I never said I agreed or disagreed... and you didn't actually say anything other than this is how I do it, until after I asked. Once you responded with why you did it, I told you thanks... why so angry?

 

Angry?

I'm not angry.

I thought that you were angry.

 

No, I was just saying thanks for following along. You had missed part of the requested commentary and then you filled in the blanks. Beginning, middle, end. Please and thank you.

 

Now you are just being argumentative for no good purpose.

"There are no numbers"......for what ??

And those who are posting in this thread obviously ARE thinking about it.

Your recent comments are coming dangerously close to being insulting.

I posted what I did to try and illustrate that there might be factors that NONE of us are really aware of......and that includes you, believe it or not.

Nothing in your reply answered the question: WHY NOT USE WHAT IS RECOMMENDED.
If you really want to address that, I'm listening. If not, I quit.
This "discussion" is becoming incredibly boring.

 

Mr. I, I have started nothing. I have added a lot of substance. You don't see it that way because you disagree with me. I'm ok with your disagreeing. I welcome your disagreement, but I don't appreciate your constant bullying when your claims are rebutted.

You just have it out for me because I push back to some of what you write. You don't like that. You hate that.

I have read your post history and you hate it when others push back.

If you don't like my writings you can always ignore them.

Have a good evening.

 

Mr. I, you don't approve of my opinion. Thats ok. It is my response to your thread. Sorry you don't like it. In other words, Toyota has engineered the C to be exceedingly low in maintenance, and I think you often over complicate the maintenance requirements for our wonderful cars. I've had other Toyotas and have always done my own maintenance with few exceptions, and having put 300,000 miles across those cars without any repairs, I feel that my opinions do have some merit. If you want to call my opinions anecdotal, or anything else, I'll not be offended. Seriously, you need to lighten up and find away to be okay with rebuttal, and push back. Sorry you take it as a personal jab, but I assure you that it is not. I don't attack the person, although I might attack the idea ;-).

 

And for you boys and girls who don't understand what is really going on here.........
The above quoted statement is the DEFINITION of egotistical and condescending.........
and there is no need for any of that here.

You are incredible all right.

 

I'd have to agree with you, Easy Rider. Mr. I is a control freak. Study his writings in this thread and in many others in the history. He shows a lot of control-talk. He hates it when others rebut him, disagree with him.

He needs to grow up and accept that fact that it is okay to disagree.

Thats part of being an adult .

 

Mr. I. I will give my opinion whenever I want.

I will not take orders from you.

Be kind, be sincere, be tolerant of others.

So get over it!

Thanks!

Rules, Mr. I?

Rules?!?

You make the rules?!?

And you are the internet cop too?

I would suggests you try being tolerant, kind, and reasonable.

Learn to be okay with other views, alternative voices, other opinions.

Thanks!

 

Disagreeing is one thing, but not contributing to the essence of the thread is another. You have been argumentative from the beginning. I asked you to explain your opinion and you did. I said thanks and you try to start another argument. You don't always have to be on the defensive. Calm down, read what is written and if you can contribute to the questions of the thread, please do so. But going against the wishes of the OP's request is just asinine. It's like walking into a bank and telling the teller to leave you alone because you have the right to be there... While it's true, it doesn't mean you aren't being unnecessarily brash. Let's all take a deep breath and continue with the fact finding mission. While Mr. I isn't exactly the most couth individual I've met on this forum, he is asking for help to find fact. Help or read about others providing help. It's pretty simple to not be a troll.