Using PIP As A Generator

Aren't gasoline engines on portable generators incredibly dirty, noisy, and inefficient, compared to the ICE on the PiP? The ICE would run at its optimal RPM to recharge the EV battery, and then shut off, right?

A generator kit would have to tweak the controller software which generally does not want to charge the EV battery with the ICE.

 

I think we scared off PK

 

The controller on the PIP can adjust the engine to any level it wants to charge the battery, why would Toyota engineers set it to be less than as efficient as possible? A generator OTOH is stuck with a limited range since it needs to be running anytime there is any load. Plug in a phone charger, and your generator is running 1000 RPM.

 

Also, who the hell draws 1500 W?? My average electricity draw last month was about 170 W/hr.

 

Huh? I guess you didn't click through on the link because then you'd see that Toyota is providing EXACTLY that for the current PiP in Japan starting on November 1.

 

No, it's not. It is likely 170 kWh (kiloWatt-hours) 1000 times 170 Wh. Your toaster draws between 1000-1500 Watts.

Note: kWh is 1000 Watts * hours, NOT 1000 Watts / hours.

 

What is a W/hr ? I'm unfamiliar with that unit

Anyway, to answer your question: lots of tools draw over 10 amps, meaning over a kilowatt. I know a couple of my saws come pretty close.

 

Depending on the state, average residential monthly electric consumption is 800 - 1000 kwh. Amazingly high, but Merkins will be Merkins. If Lensovet is actually consuming 170 kwh a month he can give himself a little congratulatory pat on the back.

For context, the Australian home that Corwyn linked to last week wrt to low energy refrigerators consumes about 25 kwh electricity a month.

 

My average consumed electricity per day for the last month was 3.91 kWh. 3.91/24=.1629, even less than the 170 W figure I gave (which I got by estimating the total bill divided by my rate). I guess I did screw up the units a bit though: 170Wh is what I should have said.

 

The highest monthly usage I've had this year was 192 KWh back in April. According to PG&E, "similar homes" used 247 KWh during that same time, while "efficient" homes used 130.

 

went to taco bell for my free taco

 

I was talking to Prius Kitty.

 

It's my understanding that the PIP ICE doesn't charge the battery like the 120 volt or 240volt grid does, it charges the battery like a regular Prius, right? So you wouldn't have a fully charged battery to work with, although the ICE would charge the battery when SOC is below a specific level then shut off when that SOC is reached.

 

I was referencing that exact link, about the PIP adapter.

 

Sure, but it will still be a hell of a lot more efficient than a regular generator. And as mentioned, only start up when the power draw is significant enough to warrant it. The battery would be charged up initially and then past that the engine would run when needed. But the power coming out would be 120 all the time.

 

No you were talking about generators and linked to a generator on Amazon.

 

1500 watts I was referencing to was from the PIP adapter

 

Whatever, point is you were suggesting I get a generator. I wanted a pip that had the option of working as a generator instead. Case closed end of story. lol

 

Right, and my point was that you can! In Japan

 

and the output is 100 volts not 120 volts