Toyota Suspends Sales of Eight Models - NOT Prius

Ford Suspends Assembly of Van in China Over CTS Pedal (Update2) - BusinessWeek


Jan. 28 (Bloomberg) -- A Ford Motor Co. venture suspended production of a full-size commercial van in China as it investigates accelerator pedals made by CTS Corp., the supplier involved in Toyota Motor Corp.’s vehicle recall.


CTS-built pedal assemblies were used in 1,663 Transit Classic vans made by the venture with Jiangling Motors Corp. in Nanchang, China, said Said Deep, a spokesman for Dearborn, Michigan-based Ford. The venture began using the CTS part in December for the vans, which are sold only in China, he said today in an interview.

 

No be honest here. The real reason for your hatred is that for an entier generation or two the Toyota stores in your market are kicking the living sh*t out of your family's business as a GM dealer.

Then to top it off you had to see your beloved source go belly up last year. Then you had to wait to see if you were kept around or not. ( Your store was one of the ones kept .... wasn't it? You weren't one of the rotten apples that GM wanted out of the basket were you? ).

OK this is your chance for payback for a generation of garbage dumped on your family's head. Enjoy it while you can.

 

See above post. His family business is being destroyed by the Toyota stores in his market. Every GM store is being eaten alive by Toyota and Honda and Nissan and now Hyundai and Ford. The antagonism and hatred is pretty understandable, he's lived it his whole life every night at home.

Imagine yourself as a GM dealer from the 90's onward? Can anything be as bad as that, except being a Chrysler dealer?

 

ABC News is claiming that the government forced the recall. They have said it on the air twice (that I have seen) that it was a government mandate and not voluntary.
Toyota Recalls Another 1.1. Million Cars - ABC News

I'm not sure who to believe, but I'm not freaking out about the acceleration issue.

 

Sure my stores have been affected by toyota, but I am much more worried about the big picture. Here is your post with a couple of key words substituted.

The real reason for your hatred is that for an entire generation or two the Japanese and Chinese brand of mercantilism has been kicking the living sh*t out of your nations manufacturing base and economy.

Then to top it off you had to see your beloved nation go further and further into debt. Then you had to wait to see if your job is next. ( would GM have gone BK if it had a printing press like the federal govt? ).

 

i posted a link earlier today where the sec of trans said that Toyota was told if they did not recall and stop the sale the feds would.

 

Welcome to the real world son. I've been doing it for 40+ yrs. It is simply adjust or die. It's no longer 1990, everybody in the world competes with everybody else. Those flexible enough to survive and prosper will do well....the rest will complain.

A solution may be soon in the offing.
Supplier Says Its Fixing Faulty Toyota Pedal - CNBC

You and your family better get your kicks in while you can.

 

If the US does not do something about the trade deficit we are all doomed as Americans.

They are not sure what is really wrong with the toyotas.

 

There is a very eerie similarity to an incident that happened to an Airbus that is operated by Northwest Airlines, back in the mid 1990's.

The aircraft was reported to have experienced uncommanded rolls on approach, so a Missed Approach was executed. It happened again. NTSB wrote it up as Pilot Induced Oscillation

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Less than 2 days later, the very same aircraft experienced the same problem

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This time, the problem was traced to debris within the sidestick transducer. We were lucky that the aircraft didn't crash on approach. This sort of problem is extremely rare, but until it happens to you personally, you won't believe it

Much like the Traction Control complaints I had about my '04 Prius. Very few on this forum believed me, most concluded I was just a s****y driver. Despite the fact I have not had any problems getting around in winter with any other vehicle, including my FJ with a far differently designed TC system

 

After all these years. You still wear blinders? It's not asian mercantilism that's kicking GM out of business ... it's the dinosaurs running it like it's still 1958. GM's board gave away the company vis a vis outsourcing it's parts to the very countires you obviously dispise (I'll sum up why at the bottom of this post). The main element of GM that's still in the U.S. is it's board. You remember ... the leaches that showed up in private jet liners to beg congress for money. GM pretended to change, then re-hired the same looser dinosaurs ... back on the payroll ... sucking the last bit of post bankruptcy life right out of them.

Toyota's production numbers blew by GM so fast, they didn't know what happened. Toyota grew so fast, they couldn't build their own components fast enough to keep up. They screwed up by outsourcing to a U.S. company. You call that throwing the U.S. worker under the bus? Er, those folks HURLED their selves under the bus. The protectionism you've preached here over the years (like it or not, protectionism will never happen btw) that would limit imports would only serve to make all manufactured things so expensive that folks in our country wouldn't be able to afford things ... especially now that fossle fuel production has peaked. Energy, from here on in, can (and must) only get more and more costly ... that simple supply & demand basics. Add that increased energy cost onto everything, PLUS protectionism, & you have a recipe as damning as the open floodgates of imports that we now have.
So pushing GM products (whose parts are often made in other countries) above Asian country's higher quality products would cure nothing. It may bring you personally a few more sales, but that's it. Apparently that's what REALLY matters, right? You & yours only, to the detriment of the customers who'd buy GM's often lower quality product. So show a little love for others outside your family malorn. Please don't ask us to buy GM over higher quality cars. At least not until GM can make a higher mileage hybrid, or PHEV, or EV. Come back then, & you may get some customers. Certainly not otherwise. Most of us don't mind your goofy rants. After all, if your busy here ... you won't be fooling any dumb people on other boards.

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Actually, that part was made in Canada

 

I think 'voluntary' here may be in the same context as our Federal Income Tax system being 'voluntary'. You can do it now voluntarily, or they can do it later by force.

I seem to remember a number of past recalls announced directly by the feds.

 

Didn't I see that it was a Canadian factory of a U.S. subsidiary of an Asian company?

 

Not sure if this has been posted yet:
Toyota recall launches CTS out of obscurity - USATODAY.com

 

It does seem to be that weird. According to CTS people, they make stuff all over the world. CTS says, "we just made the parts according to Toyota's design". Then they say they've been working on new designs, "to meet tougher specifications from Toyota". Contradictory?

CTS News Release

It seems Ford is following the production halt pack due to CTS parts, too:

Ford Suspends Some Chinese Production; Toyota Widens Recall - The Two-Way - Breaking News, Analysis Blog : NPR

 

If anyone gets their accelerator assembly replaced, please keep the old part and send it to me. I'm interested in seeing what all it uses. Will pay for shipping.

Thanks,
Bob Wilson

 

They may not allow it. I've asked for recalled parts before in the case of Nissan recalls and the dealer claimed Nissan REQUIRED them to send the bad parts back. (IIRC, I asked for the plastic stopper under the pedal from the 1st recall at NHTSA ODI - Recalls and possibly for others too.)

If the dealer wasn't blowing smoke, I'd guess is it's out of legal liability concerns and that corporate doesn't want recalled parts floating around nor being resold/reused by unscrupulous dealers.

 

I figured asking was OK. Meanwhile, I found a Scion accelerator that may hold a fix for the NHW11 accelerator problem.

Replacement NHW11 accelerators cost $500 plus installation. But the problem is the dual-pot encoder. The photo of the Scion accelerator shows what appears to be a similar encoder, different pedal assembly, but very similar encoder. If we can use the Scion encoder, we will have an new source of accelerator parts as an alternative to refurbishing them.

Bob Wilson

 

"DETROIT (AP) -- Toyota Motor Corp. has told employees that it has figured out how to fix a problem with sticking accelerator pedals and will brief them on the details on Friday..."


http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/29/business/AP-Toyota-Recall.html


It'll be interesting to watch this one play out.

 

the problem could be other than the sticky gas pedal or the floor mate. It could be in the electronic like the faulty software bug. That could be really hard to debug. As I noticed, this problem involved other models which were not in the recall. Pruis 2010 models are not in the recall but we must be very alert when driving any late model Toyota cars and to fully prepare to react when this happen to you when driving: shift to neurtal and apply brake hard to stop the car.