Featured Toyota shareholders protest EV stance with votes to oust longtime leader from the board

Yes it includes phevs and probably 48V mild hybrids. You can tell the phevs because they used the pacifica and wrangler phevs as examples and used 7% market share which needs to include phevs to get there. With battery supplies tight it looks like a lot of companies will keep bev prices as high as possible. Even ford's f150 lighting price cuts come after huge price increases as they got production up. When battery capacity catches up expect bev and phev prices to fall.

 

Until some new significantly better battery chemistry is introduced by someone and then everybody wants the new shiny object and a shortage of the new battery results in a glut of the old. And a two tier market.

 

unlikely, but that would be a good thing

 

Of course that could happen. And then we'll have lots of capacity for grid storage batteries, if, in fact there is a glut of the old

Mike

 

The miracle battery is just around the corner

 

We can just dig up the old Prius batteries in the landfills.

Bob Wilson

 

Probably lots of government incentives for them to. The largest exporter of oil, Saudia Arabia, has been refusing to produce at full capacity unless we send them protection to fight off against Iran. But we are tired of fighting their wars and are trying to be less relient on them. Thus, the great propaganda to transition to EV has been going underway and theyve been pushing it through their teeth even tho its not realistic whatsoever.

Car manufacturers will support whatever their stock holders tell them to support. It wouldnt surprise me if Blackrock held 20% or more of their overall shares. So back to the question, it really is "why does the government and blackrock support full EVs?". And the answer is money. Its always money.

 

I disagree.
If it were that simple there would be no reason the government didn’t support EVs previously. Or why some states try to penalize EV owners while others incentivize (while some do both.

Money definitely plays a role, but public pressure also plays a role.

 

It might not be tied directly to the cause, but when you dig deeper it starts to make sense and its always financially motivated.

For example, blackrock only invests in things with a high ESG score. Huge part of that is environmental impacts of public traded companies actions, whether or not theres sense to it. Just their percieved notion of environmentally friendly. Why do you think Toyota board members are at war with their previous CEO who knows this EV hysteria is all a bunch of bs and not grounded in reality.

Now its easier to see why the government is pushing it because it equals to having power over other countries by not being on the mercy of Saudi oil impacting the world economy of the price of fuel. We already been burning all of our reserves to keep our own prices at home low.

Public pressure is just hidden propaganda being pushed to be fed to the masses. Who told you EV was enviromentally friendly? Its not anymore than nuclear is. But you have this notion it is because thats what youve been told by people that wanna sell it and you just parrot it. Realistically, its not sustainable and anyone that has any little sense of how engineering, electricity, and energy cannot be created or destroyed just transfered, knows EVs are not the answer. Toyota knows. But hydrogen isnt the answer either

 

solar power is not sustainable?

 

It won't be available in as little as 5 billion years when the sun swells to engulf the earth

 

Everything including gas is solar power in one form or another.

If you mean solar panels, then no. It is a nice supplement but you cannot rely on it because it is unreliable and only available at around 5 hours a day. And a single roof of a house if filled with panels to the brim, is only enough to run maybe a fridge 24/7. Charging up a car? Forget it. Youll need a whole acre full of panels for that.

 

LOL

 

Link?
just asking because 1,100²ft of our 1,400²ft roof supplied sufficient power to zero out our usage which included two plug-in vehicles.



We used grid at night rather than battery backup to store our surplus which
was cheaper than putting in a battery backup.

Not that either yours nor my reply is pertinent to the OP .


So unless you can show otherwise, it depends how far north or south you live and how big or small one's roof is.
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Funny. My fridge uses about 2kwh per day
I've only got 12 PV panels, but they provide, on average over the entire year about 11 kwh per day.
I get a refund every year when the utility does my true up.

Seems to me you haven't done the math properly.

Mike

 

This is not accurate.
First, 5 hours a day is probably the peak production, but not all of it.
Second, we produce more energy than our house plus two EVs, on an annual basis.