Toyota Prius PHEV Test Car Specs

darelldd · Jul 25, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Jul 25 2007, 07:05 AM) [snapback]484633[/snapback]</div>

Sorry to make a new thread for this, but I can't figure out how to add a PDF attachment in reply to the existing Prius PHEV threads.[/b]
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Doh! Now look what you've done! Now even I am going to reply to yet another splinter thread.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(David Beale @ Jul 25 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]484685[/snapback]</div>

Just two comments. How many get "after-peak hours" lower electrical rates? I've never seen it in Canada.[/b]
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Many US utilities offer it. EVERY utility in the world *should* offer it. Energy costs more to make during peak, and is basically wasted during off-peak. We pay a premium for vacationing at peak times, why don't we pay for the energy we use at peak times (and get a break during off-peak). Anyway, in the grand scheme of things, how much you pay isn't the big news. It is that you are using power that is under-utilized, and not requiring any more power plants to be built. Even if you pay full price to fill your PHEV, it'll still be WAY the heck cheaper than gasoline will ever be again... and better for you and the world.

Per · Jul 25, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(donee @ Jul 25 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]485070[/snapback]</div>

Hi All,

What good is it ? For people with a 4 mile commute, they will basically only use gas in the winter, and weekends. That is a great advantage. For people with longer commutes, it means much more pulse and glide capability. No need to pulse at a low level for most commutes, to get the battery back up over 5 bars - the household electricity will do that. And in hot areas, it means running the AC on the household current for the typical commute. These are all great improvements. And certainly, it means better mileage for people in hillier terrain (as has been mentioned).

This is a first step for a production PHEV, a PHEV 8. 20 years more from the first prodution, we can expect much better batteries, or other storage technologies. A PHEV 40 might be too big a leap to start. There has to be proffit to fund the next step.

The reason their is more power, is that there is more power in the battery. Right now, the battery is only about 25 hp, 30 in peaks. The double sized battery can have twice the HP, or 50 / 60 HP , and the 1.8 liter turbo engine discused probably makes for a total of 138 hp. That means the motor power is a close match to the battery in this car. Applying the performance / hp comparisons of our Prius, Prius will probably accellerate like a 180 hp traditional automatic transmission car. Something like a 7.5 second 0-60 mph time ?
Hi Per and TLS,

As the Battery Power to MG2 power ratio is much bigger in this car, the amount of juice from MG1 does not have to be as high. More of the engine power can go directly through the gearbox to the wheels, and less by MG1 to MG2. So MG1 could run slower for that reason alone. Which would increase the glide speed and EV speed.

But will Toyota do a special gearbox for the PHEV vehicle? Or stick with the same gearbox the 1.8 Liter Turbo Miller engine will use ?
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Thanks, Donee!

That's the answer I was looking for.
As far as a special gearbox, I would guess there would be a big demand for such a Prius version, and any retooling would be quickly earned back by volume sales. Better performance and better mileage would be an unbeatable combination--I don't think Toyota can build them fast enough, even at an increased price.

TLS,

Yes, I ciould have been clearer on how I phrased the question, but we got it worked out in the end!

TLS · Jul 27, 2007

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Per @ Jul 25 2007, 06:08 PM) [snapback]485133[/snapback]</div>

TLS,

Yes, I ciould have been clearer on how I phrased the question, but we got it worked out in the end!
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We did! You folks like to get technical, so be technical through and through.

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