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New tech has eliminated much of what you have stated. 3 cars can now pump at a 4 car station with no issue. There have been far more incidents of BEV fires than of hydrogen explosions. The cost of Hydrogen has already dropped in cost and will do so as the infrastructure expands and more hydrogen vehicles hit the road. Everyday new news is released on new developments for the new Hydrogen world we are watching develop.

 

Strawman.

I responded to two articles you posted. I called one a fluff piece. It was about Germany investing in hydrogen, but gave no numbers on how much, or what exactly in. Just a line about having 60,000 FCEVs on the road in three years while starting from 600.

Another strawman.

No claimed BEVs were perfect. Just better than hydrogen in the use of electricity or carbon emissions.

If you did not know, FCEVs need a battery too.

Tesla's newer battery does not use cobalt, but regardless of specifics to a battery, the growing number of old EV batteries will lead to someone making a profit off them. Old car batteries still have useful life left for over purposes, like peak shaving. Toyota is already doing this at some Japanese dealer with old Prii batteries. With enough packs in the wild, recycling them becomes feasible.

Why can't the fourth? Will he be able to fill just as quickly once he can fill his car?
How much slower is it for the three than if there was just one? The pumps slow down at gasoline stations when they are busy.

And there are more gasoline fires, but comparing raw numbers when the groups are hundreds of cars to hundreds of thousands and then to millions says nothing about relative safety.

While there have been fewer hydrogen explosions, they did have farther reaching affects than battery car fires. The shut down of stations in Norway was simply out of caution, but two people were injured when the blast set off their car's airbags.

The blast in Santa Clara lead to a hydrogen shortage in the San Fran Bay area, leading people to park their FCEVs.

A plant making hydrogen for vehicles had an incident that damaged 60 homes.

An explosion in South Korea killed two and injured six when, "It destroyed a complex about half the size of a soccer field."
Hydrogen hurdles: a deadly blast hampers South Korea's big fuel cell car bet | Reuters

The cost of making renewable hydrogen is coming down, but it could take *cough* ten years to equal that of hydrogen made from natural gas.

There have not been any cost reductions in delivering hydrogen to stations, or getting it into cars, for high pressure and liquid forms. Something like hydride storage could lead to lower cost, but it would render current FCEVs obsolete, and make most of what spent on hydrogen stations a loss.

 

Good thing that N. Carolina explosion didn't kill anyone.
Hearing all the fluf from Toyota about how Europe hydrogen car sales are humming along .... this data popped up,



Looks like by 2017 - the European community came to their senses - & things have cut way back with the Mirai (not that much was ever going on) during the past 3 years or so. Ergo the expression: hydrogen highway's dead end.
but who knows ... maybe in 10 years.
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Not bad since this chart reflectS California sales and Hawaii. Remember there are only a few Toyota dealers that are allowed to sell the Mirai. Also Toyota was having an interview process to lease or buy a Mirai starting in 2016. So with this limitation on overall availability it was never intended to sell at the volume of Tesla. After all these are highly crafted vehicle build by hand at a level of only Rolls Royce could match at a rate of 3 per day. So for the exclusivity and unmatched build quality it is selling as planned by Toyota.