Toyota admits being hurt by Tesla, gives tepid response

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  1. orenji

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    If we really cared about saving the world we would all ride bikes to work.....that would solve many problems of the world. But then what would we all do for work?!! I guess we could just spend time at the North Beach.
     
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    shorters have been saying that for years. i wouldn't invest my hard earned money on other peoples prognostications
     
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    some of us own prius to save the world, others to save money. just different philosophies of life, and whether it's all about me, or the brotherhood of man.
     
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    new Leaf msrp - $29k. With fed credits (never mind numerous States giving cash incentives, as high as $5K in Colorado) that's $21,500. Bam.
    Next hand-wringer please .....
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    Why not for both!
     
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    can be, i don't drive enough to save money with my 30k prius
     
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    Well you saved a least $20k not buying a Model 3 :)
     
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    That is certainly true in my case. My progression was ICE > hybrid > PHEV > BEV over a 12 year period. I will move to a car that is significantly more appealing - "green", efficient, convenient, etc- (Tesla or otherwise) as soon as it becomes available.
     
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    now that's where saving the world would be worth the financial sacrifice.(y)
     
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    that's why businesses diversify, like powerwall, solar panels, SpaceX & the like .... different entities sort of ..... but then can merge whenever necessary. More negative Karma please, I'm sure it'll help the failure ... try harder!

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    Share price doesn't matter to me, as well as many others. This "Cult of Elon" believer invests in $TSLA for the long term because I believe in the company's vision and mission.
     
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    there are funds you can buy that match your philosophical desires
     
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    At the cost of not doing all you can to fight global warming and climate change. It isn't all about money.
     
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    true, but you can only carry so heavy a short portfolio.
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    depends on how tall you are
     
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    GM has been around a lot longer than Toyota, and look where they are today!
     
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    Without money there is no Tesla, or saving the planet.
     
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    Still one of the biggest auto manufactures in the world.
     
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    money is important, to an extent
     
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    Isn't that clothing optional? Naughty boy! That's carrying "environmentalism' a bit too far! :oops:
     
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