I've found it easy to get caught up trying to maximize my EV mileage. Not for bragging rights, because I find it a challenge. HV is easy and carefree compared to EV, even when practicing common sense fuel saving techniques.
I have filled up my prius 16 times since new and most of them (14) has had a trip of between 230 to 450 miles involved. So most of my miles other than these trips are all EV in town miles. It does help that I can plan most of my in town trips to maximize EV miles and re-charge and go again. It works good, really good mileage in town with EV and out of town mileage is high also. Win, Win as I see it.
" Thank you for your honest reply. When I was still working I had a company car, if I had my PIp then I could have really manipulated my EV driving. Now my daly "commutes consist of a 6 mile ride to the Gym, no recharge, errands on way home, a 2-3 times a month a 90 mile trip to our shore home. Could use the wife's Acura TSX but what's the point of having a 55+ Mpg car sitting just to increase EV ratio. " ------------------------------ was his "honest reply" valued because it told you what you wanted to hear ? I find this idea that high EV drivers are that because of extra effort kind of funny. Markabele said it best - your normal day of driving doesn't mean others can't have a different norm... I'm still at 90% EV so not sure what "effort" I've used - I'm just driving, not choosing to take other vehicles to max EV - just driving so my EV is as "carefree" as my HV ! I'll point out one related and erroneous item I've read - someone said 10 mile trips aren't "real world". But in warmer temps I was getting 16-18 regularly - maybe that satisfies real world better - and not surprisingly that's when I hit 96% EV for a 1,000mi period. Now its pretty cold. My daily driving routine hasn't changed one bit but my 12 mile RT to the train and 16 mi RT for Wed night beers is using some gas. Dropped my 91% lifetime to 90% and in all probability 89% before spring I'd argue the only thing that's even close to this idea of undue effort (and advantage?) is the ability to charge. I can do so for free at the grocery store and one of my other daily runs. I'd say that's more good fortune and not really effort since I'm not actually generating the electricity myself !
Since "driving pattern" varies so differently, I think the efficiency of both fuel is more important than the ratio.
Touchy aren't we,it's not just what I want to hear, just other people driving routes that I'm interested in. While mine don't lend to high EV and I only get 12 miles max out of EV because maybe I can't drive 15 mph down my streets , don't mean I'm not interest in how other people get such high ratios, and for ME those high Ev ratios are not real world because they are virtually impossible for me to attain!
Your EV percentage is impressive. In my reply (post #458), I made a honest assesment of my five thousand plus mile experience with my Prius Plug In, and my 81% EV. Your reply "I'm just driving, not choosing to take other vehicles to max EV -just driving so my EV is a "carefree" as my HV". I explained my rationale, but you question my motives. I will state, my 81% EV was based on total vehicle mileage , not the 1000 mile minimum required to qualify for the "Top 20". Since my vehicle of choice is a Prius Plug In, you can bet I'm in it for the EV mileage. Eighty one percent EV, regardless, is still 81%. Holier than thou? Not me.
Don, I apologize as I can see where you may have thought I was questioning you... It was not the case however and I was actually trying to address 2-3 recent posts and maybe not very well ! My point or defense I guess - is that normal or real world driving can vary greatly from person to person. No trickery involved and I'm certainly not driving 15mph just to get numbers - anyone who can charge multiple times during their day has a leg up. If my driving pattern was different I'd be driving something that begins with a V ps 81% is awesome and clearly the PiP was the right choice for you - well done !
haha, I'm an idiot. In my head I was honestly thinking Volvo or Volkswagen. And no worries...the Volt is a great car and is obviously superior for certain length commutes.
I don't think this will make top 20 mpge, but here's my 2013 usage. Had one long trip down to FL and the wife drove for maybe a couple of weeks, but otherwise mostly surface streets, Here's fuelly page with stats: Prius Plug-in (Toyota Prius Plug-in) | Fuelly average price for gas was 3.41/gal and electric is about 11.5 cents/kwh I might charge a couple times a month at a blink charger within ev range of the house. Pip is definitely a keeper. Happy New Year to all!
I agree completely. My real world is I am retired and I live in a small town of 20,000 people in Ohio. I have a 2014 Prius Plug In Advanced. I traded in a 2010 Prius IV that I loved and would regurarily get 50 to 52 MPG highway, in winter however 35 to 40 mpg was typical. I only had 16,000 miles on it after 4 years. We live 1 to 2 mile from the Kroger and Wal Mart shopping areas, 1.5 mile from downtown shopping and post office, 1.4 miles from doctors and hospital, and lastly 6 miles from church. Now I have only had my plug in for 8 days, but I expect to achieve a very high EV percentage. I am not going to go to any special effort to maximize EV, I am going to heat the cabin in winter if I am going over a mile or 2. So no matter what people think, this is my real world or actual driving conditions. I pay $ .12/kw so for me that translates to about 1/3 the cost of gasoline in cents per mile on EV vs gas. Other than vacation trips which we take usually one sometimes two a year of around 900 to 1200 miles round trip, I believe almost all of my other miles will be EV. I bought my 2014 Plug In in Baltimore MD, drove my 2010 Prius over and got 51 MPG, drove the new Plug IN home and got 56 MPG (only had a full charge when we left Baltimore, plug in opportunities till I got home). Looking forward to future chats when I get some miles on the new 2014 and have some data. Happy New Year to all , and don't fight each other we are all in it for the same reason I suspect.
You sound like a poster child for the PIP. Perfect combination of charging opportunities and a great deal of short trips. Toyota should feature you in advertising and provide compensation accordingly
Proud to use both fuels where they are most suitable. Electric for short trip and gas for long trip. Electric for A/C and gas for heat. Enjoy the synergy drive.
Nobody is going to top their nice weather figures. I will post my 1,000 miles result from multiple snow storms hitting east coast, anyway. Both the electric and gas efficiency got reduced by about 10%. 117 MPGe on electric and 50 MPG on gas with 32% EV. Impressive figure not achievable by a pure EV or a regular Prius. My first year of ownership results were 132 MPGe electric / 56 MPG gas.
Excellent results. From your recent 1,000 miles of winter driving, how much of that was driven on dry pavement as opposed to wet, slushy, or snow-covered roads? A 10% drop would be great results just for the drop in temperature alone but I would expected worse due to reduced traction on the roads.