Things We'd Like To See on PHEV Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by M8s, Aug 18, 2010.

  1. ken1784

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    I saw max 400 Wh in 5 minutes.

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  2. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    wow... the most I got coming down the Rocky Mountains was 6 leaf cars in 5 mins
     
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    I agree that we need the availability of 40 miles EV.
    I would like Sync like and other internet options.
    Spare tire!
    TURBO option?
    The door panels dont appear like they are high quality material
    Ability to easily change headlamp bulbs.
    Overal servicability is important
    Oil pressure gauge
    Water temp guage
    12V battery monitor
    More variety in colors especially exterior i.e. Yellow, lipstick red

    With current solar panel technology, they are still not efficent enough for the size to
    charge battery.

    Factory winter front or something for fast electrical warmups - timed heating and cooling

    Heated seats
    Unity amoung dealer service departments and training.
    Better interior lighting (current is yellowish)
    Different Toyota logo / badging front and rear
    Factory stabilizer bar ) front

    Android app for car monitoring and control

    Sport package: suspension, tires, wheels, brakes, tinted glass, badging, body trim, etc.

    Softer more comfortable seating
     
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    redesign the center console/ flying bridge. better cupholders and storage.:)
     
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  6. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    This has probably been covered elsewhere numerous times by others. But I think Toyota has chosen the range based on battery cost, size, weight, reliability, heat and a host of other parameters. I think the 13 mile range is probably the optimum choice given all those things.

    If you want 40 miles of range, you'll need 3x the battery cost, size, weight, etc. First, in the current body design adding 3x more batteries won't really fit. Making the car bigger gets you lower mpg on gas and lower MPGe on battery. More weight decreases these as well. And the cost delta increases (guessing $3000 extra as is to $10,000 extra for more batteries and bigger body). Comparing the two possible cars you will never get your $7000 returned to you.

    The math: how many days of 27 miles more per day would you have to drive on EV at zero electricity cost to save $7K? Answer: 4320 days or 11.8 years. And note that every day you don't drive 40 miles on EV don't count. And this assumes gas of $3/gal and electricity at 0 cents. More realistic is that it will take about 6000 days or 16+ years.

    And in a world where battery capacity is limited I'd rather have Toyota sell 3x as many PHEVs for the lower cost delta.

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    • Eco Heat/Cool (already on prototypes. Please make it into production)
    • Smarter navigation technology that knows terrain, traffic and calculates and provides an ECO option (can be integrated into smartphone)
    • Smartphone App that allows for start/stop charging, downloadable fuel mileage data,
    • Adjustable louvres for grille blocking
    • 3-dr SKS standard on all models (ppl might expect it based on the added price)
    • LED headlights (even without the 17" alloys) at least optional
    • Premium cloth material
    • Smarter cpu that knows the destination is 1 mile ahead (with nav) with 2 miles remaining on the charge and won't start an engine warm-up cycle at 1.6 miles remaining
    • OR alternatively, a built-in engine block heater that uses the HV battery to pre-heat the engine.
     
  8. LakePrius

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    Built in Scangauge II :) - or at least the ability to design information screens with any information available on the bus.
     
  9. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Just to add a few more things


    - heated front seats
    - heated rear seats
    - heated steering wheel


    Hey, it's more efficient to heat electrically than to heat the cabin's air. Nissan said so themselves. Those items will be included in the Leafs (leaves?) sold in cold climates.
     
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    i just wanna see IT
     
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    With the Leaf coming out and Nissan's work to install public charging infrastructure, it sure would be nice if the PHEV Prius could make use of this and do L2 charging. In that case, you could refill the batteries while out doing your errands in about an hour. I haven't seen anything which indicates what the maximum charge rate for the PHEV Prius will be, only that it will come with an L1 wand which should recharge it in about 3 hours.