The "fart can" has arrived!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(drees @ Nov 22 2007, 10:39 PM) [snapback]543134[/snapback]</div>

Check where David Beale lives. Only in the U.S. do we get as energized about individual expression as we do.

On a positive note, the comment was made that if the exhaust sound is not noticeably louder, the law tends to be ignored.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(apriusfan @ Nov 23 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]543167[/snapback]</div>

I don't know if that is true but we don't get so paranoid that every new law will erode our rights. Outside USA people value the rights of the group as much as the rights of the individual. The right to a quiet nights sleep in the suburbs is more important than the right to fit a rice burner with an industrial size chimney. Like in Canada, the law isn't enforced unless the muffler is too loud. Most times a vehicle would just recieve a defect notice requiring it to be presented for and pass inspection before it can be used again. There is a small cost but no fine is normally issued.

 

Note: Pinto Girl -this does not apply to you. You are more than qualified to know what is good and what is bad. You likely know more about cars than 85% of the posters here.

The reason we need laws to regulate the mufflers that some install on cars is that some people have no concern or respect for their fellow citizens, neighbors, etc. If you have ever lived in the City or in an apartment complex, where some jerks comes home at 0300 with his stereo cranked up to 100 and sits and revs his 6 cylinder with the fart can or worse, a 4 cylinder, then you can't appreciate how disruptive that is to your whole family, including pets. Oh, and a true fart can is stupid loud and offensive. Those people comprise that portion of society which needs law enforcement intervention to educate them as to what is appropriate and what isn't. These are also the same asses who get stopped and ticketed and later call it racism, riceism, or whatever.

These, I have noticed first hand, are the same idiots who sit in restaurants and talk on their cell phones like they are in their "crib" dropping the "N" word and using the "F" word as every other word because they have no vocabulary and are actually ignorant. Gee, why can't I get a job????? OH, and tell them you are not hiring them and the first word out of their mouth is "racism". Yeah, grow up, get a life and be responsible for your own actions. And while you are at it don't get any more tattoos on your face, neck, hands. Possibly remove some of the studs, hoops, jewels, decorating your face. Or if not, enjoy working for McDonald's. Life is tough and generally speaking you get no second chances. Apparently their parents, when not smoking a crack pipe, failed to tell them some of this stuff. Finally, education is never as expensive as ignorance.

OK, well that is enough for now------

 

could you take a recording of how it sounds? i have a TRD stainless exhaust on my scion ( 1nz-fe) it sounds really nice, a nice deep noise not loud, not annoying like some other cars

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinto Girl @ Nov 23 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]543249[/snapback]</div>

Have you had any opportunity to assess the cat-back's impact on mileage? I am really curious about the impact of a cat-back exhaust on mpgs of the ICE (with its Atkinson cycle engine).

Also, any chance of posting a pic? I (and I imagine a few others are too) am curious how the tailpipe looks relative to the rear bumper.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinto Girl @ Nov 23 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]543229[/snapback]</div>

OK, I fixed the broken link.

But I find it quite revealing that you zero in on the broken link, but totally ignore the hypocrisy of you chastising others for stereotyping neoConservatives . . .
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinto Girl @ Nov 21 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]542482[/snapback]</div>

when you yourself are guilty of doing the exact same thing. <_< . . .

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinto Girl @ Apr 18 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]425440[/snapback]</div>

http://priuschat.com/index.php?s=&show...st&p=425440


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinto Girl @ Nov 23 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]543249[/snapback]</div>

DUh
I've always thought my liberal friend were a little confused. :lol:
And I think you too are just plain confused regarding who is guilty of stereotyping . . . and hypocrisy.

 

After watching this food fight play itself out, I am starting to get confused. Here is what I think I understand:

1. Pinto Girl purchased an aftermarket cat-back exhaust product for her car;

2. Pinto Girl started feeling guilty over making the purchase after reading about an island of trash in the Pacific Ocean that is somewhere between the California coast and Hawaii;

3. Pinto Girl posted about her feelings of guilt in this thread and a similar thread in the FHOP forum;

4. Somewhere along the way after item 3. above (and in particular, the more recent posts), this thread became more about Pinto Girl's alleged hypocrisy than the relative merits of the cat-back exhaust product that Pinto Girl purchased.

If I haven't missed anything significant in my Cliff Notes summary of this thread, perhaps we can get back on track as to the merits of the cat-back exhaust product. It is a modification that was made to the Prius. It doesn't seem to make the increased sound level that is characteristic of other aftermarket exhaust modifications to other cars that are powered with traditional 4 cylinder gasoline-powered engines. And apart from an oval polished stainless tailpipe, one might not know that the modification has been made. There is also a possibility that the modification may have either a positive or negative impact on mpgs, which I personally would like to know more about.

If there remains an overwhelming desire to continue the food fight, maybe the food fight part of the thread could be moved to the thread in the FHOP forum.

 

Heck, I just want to see some installed pictures......

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cairo94507 @ Nov 24 2007, 09:12 AM) [snapback]543576[/snapback]</div>

So would I. And if there is any feedback that Pinto Girl can give regarding a positive or negative impact on mpgs, that would be great too.

 

Well said. Though I think you missed the tangent on noise and aftermarket exhaust modification laws, though those aren't quite as off topic.

I still don't get the law banning aftermarket exhaust tips when it would be much easier to simply ban exhausts which exceed a certain sound limit like they do here in the states currently.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(drees @ Nov 24 2007, 09:54 PM) [snapback]543861[/snapback]</div>

I don't get the logic of the law either. I would have expected some maximum decibel level measured x feet (or meters) away from the tailpipe. That is an objective standard - you either pass or fail. There must be more to the law than what was posted.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(apriusfan @ Nov 24 2007, 11:29 PM) [snapback]543871[/snapback]</div>

Ah, but that would require all police to be able to use their brains! Currently only about 1/2 do, the rest just use their tazers.

 

PintoGirl~

Any updates??? Can she post the sound wav file here so we can hear it?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hycamguy07 @ Nov 27 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]544769[/snapback]</div>

I am not Pinto Girl, but... At the second half of post #67 above, I believe she mentioned not having the hardware to record a wav file.

 

Ok, you took a pic of your slot car track and not the exhaust?

c'mon. stop teasing us!

It would cool if you were the first Prius owner to get a modified exhaust ticket! haha.

I loved the sound of my suby boxer burble, but the popo intervened. I love the fact you're trying to get a little more HP's out of your Prius. It's part of car culture. koodos to ya!

 

The slot car track photo brought back memories from my early teens - I had both HO and 1/32nd scale tracks.... The HO scale track was on a 4x8 sheet of plywood that folded up out of the way against one of the walls in my bedroom; the 1/32nd scale track was in the garage on 2 4x8 sheets of plywood that folded up against one of the walls.