I have the video that needs to be edited but this is what paid for the trip: Yes there are many technically superior videos and photos to see but this is mine. Lessons learned, if I decide to witness another, perhaps closer, but I am not sure it adds to my life’s experience. The breakfast taco, shrimp omelet, and lettuce wraped fish and shrimp ‘taco’ were a treat I will repeat at home. Later, Bob Wilson
Disappointed that the booster catch was set aside this time. But I'll risk this entire thread banishment as political Musk bought into political victory. If that does not ease Starship's coming 4 year's free flying, he bought poorly. This should get a Starship on-orbit refueling demo done, and a 2026 landing of Starship on Mars. And other things, Elon Musk will do anything to get Starship to Mars during conjunctions during his unpredictable lifespan remaining.
Yet froggy Musk has a scorpion on his back in the flood of time. It isn’t if he’ll get stung but when. Bob Wilson
I fully support Musk’s technical achievements. But like Ford and Limburg, they had poor judgements in non-technical areas … like me and girls. Happily Holly caught me and we shared 43 years. Bob Wilson
I'm thinking that Musk will recoup his investment. Trump will be termed out in 4 years and by then you will probably be able to watch a Starship launch and capture just about anytime you happen to be in the area. People forget that Musk doesn't own Tesla but he does own Space-X outright. He also owns all of the Space-X subsidiaries, IIRC.
For a sense of perspective, I've scaled railroad tank cars adjacent to the Starship: Yes, the rocket diameter is more than twice the diameter of a rail car. Next time you're stopped at a railroad crossing, count six cars and know, "There goes 1/3d of a starship." Having witnessed Starship #4 and #6, lessons learned: Port Isabel - best viewing spot. Although somewhat tricky to find a clear view on the south beaches, it is closer and easier to watch a launch and recovery. Affordable restaurants and coffee shops - no need for a kitchenette. There are affordable motels that have not started to jack up rates for launch watchers. (NOTE: I use SouthWind, an older property, pet fee, with kitchenette. Tell 'em "Bob the fat guy recommended you.") Duration - arrive the day before or a rest and sleep over, add two days for weather delay, and one sleep over before leaving after traffic has left. Free L2 Tesla chargers and close enough SuperChargers - an easy trip for EVs. Avoid South Padre Island unless you have a room near the beach - traffic is jammed up 2 hours before and 5 hours after a launch. Don't join the rolling parking lot. Raw beach north end of South Padre Island - get back to real, raw beaches. Parking was running $12 per day but well worth it. There was a $70 heliocopter ride shop. Ear plugs and tripod - unless you like to be under a fireworks display, ear plugs makes it more fun as your body will feel the sound. Also, use a tripod as you don't want to 'hand hold' the camera/phone. Just enjoy the experience and snatch "professional" videos later. I probably won't be going back until at least two, Starship upper stage landings. Although I saw the first stage, ocean crash, the sonic boom took ~60 seconds or about 12.5 miles to arrive. Bob Wilson
Apollo Saturn V had 7.5 million pounds thrust (combined, meaning all the stages?), so that's quite a jump. Infographic: Spacecraft of the Apollo Program | Britannica This is to go to the moon? Does the full top section land, or just a portion?
"This is to go to the moon? Does the full top section land, or just a portion?" To Moon and Mars, with refueling required in Earth orbit. That refueling is a thing not yet attempted but in is scheduled for 2025 I think. The full top section would land as a later version with legs. Elevator down the side for crew. == Only light things have softly landed on Moon and Mars with retro rockets and those kick up a lot of dust. A heavy thing landing like that will be a dusty event.
I heard something about purposely turning up retro rockets just before touchdown, to fuse dust. Some.
Not much fusing I'd guess. Most of dust will be going 'thataway' and not spending much time where it's hot. First landings of these w/o people could happen as soon as refueling and legs are on. Shortest distances to Mars are in 2025 Jan and 2027 Feb, it's about every 26 months. I don't see Starship making a trip in 2025. In contrast one could try the moon anytime.
Expansive plans for this system are to increase launch cadence to ludicrous 100/year. That would take much more liquid oxygen than US now produces. Just one of those things...
I have other names in mind. Musk has engineering skills so I would call it: The Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B was a starship designed to relocate the (largely redundant) useless part of the population from the planet Golgafrincham. The ship was led by the Captain, with Number One and Number Two next in charge. I would expect at least a moon, gravity assist either to get to Mars or slow down on the return. Early return missions would probably have a smaller re-entry vehicle and the upper stage would be lost. Perhaps a skip initial entry followed by a moon deceleration loop before a final re-entry. Bob Wilson