Tesla to Chademo Adapter

No, a spare doesn't come with it.
Do you have a spare muffler that comes with your car?
I haven't had a spare tire with a car since before we converted our Prius to a plugin version.

If you choose to carry around the dead weight and added expense of a spare, that's fine, just don't ask manufacturers to make it standard.

I doubt highly a Tesla would be spending that much time at a DC fast charger. They would spend the minimum amount of time to allow them to get to the nearest free SC, or their destination.

 

Spare tire (at least donut) has been standard, until plugins came out with big battery packs. Spare was dropped to make room and cut weight.

At least, a spare tire can be left in the garage. You cannot do the same with the extra battery dead weight. If you don't use those extra EV miles, you drag along with it as well. Ditto to the "range extender" in Volt.

Coming to this Chademo charger, you'll need to bring it in the car right? If not, you will be limited to decent speed chargers.

 

Fair point on the unused battery weight. Which is why it is important for people to consider how much range they actually need, or if they really need that gas backup.
More and more cars are doing away with spares, not just ones with heavy battery packs.

I'm afraid I don't understand your last comment. Bring what "into the car"? And what do you mean by "decent spped" chargers?

 

You need to have the adapter in the car to charge from Chademo station right? That's a "spare" charger adapter.

By decent speed charger, I mean Chademo chargers are much faster than L1 and L2 chargers. Those slow chargers would take days to fully charge the Model S, perhaps just a few hours to get home if you are close by.

The adapter:

 

Thank you for the explanation.
I suppose speed is relative.
I consider the CHADEMO chargers slow.

The "if not you will be limited to decent" part of your comment threw me off.

The adapter, if you decide you need one, is tiny compared to the space available for cargo.

 

62.5 kW is slow?

15 mins can give you about 40 miles range. Not as fast as gas or hydrogen but plenty to get back home from Nissan dealership.

 

Like I said, it is all relative. I am used to 120kW.
All the CHAdeMO chargers around here are 50kW. Glad to hear here are a few a bit faster.

This is why I said earlier, Tesla owners are unlikely to be using these if they have any choice.

 

Yes, it is all relative. Mirai recharges at about 3,000 kW (3 gigawatts).

 

Yes, however, I need to drive to California to refuel

 

For now. H2 stations are coming to the East Coast.

Toyota Announces East Coast Hydrogen Highway for Mirai FCV - HybridCars.com

 

Excellent, then I only half to drive halfway across the country

 

You are assuming you have Mirai to begin with.

When it is launched over there, I am sure H2 stations would be available.

 

I don't recall Toyota even setting a goal for production version of their FCV.

I know GM did with their skateboard platform and hydrogen highway during Bush administration.

You are misplacing your dislike of H2.

 

Manufacturers were deleting spare tires as standard equipment before plugins came along. Either for weight, space, or cost. Off the top of my head, the Fiat 500 doesn't have one, and is a $300 option. The Sonic LS sedan with manual doesn't have one; it's the loss leader and possible EPA tester. Then some of the Hyundai/Kais were sans spare in past.

Tire construction has improved over the years. Pennsylvania is lousy with pot holes, and the worse I've suffered is knocked out alignment. The tire slime is probably also better. Then every one has a cell phone. Spare tires really aren't a need for most drivers these days. If it is a need for a person, they can get a spare or, with TPMS now mandatory, run flat tires.

Did you do either for your long road trip in the PPI?

 

Did 1,000+ miles round trip to Canada with 3 charges and got 60 MPG. Stopped by 2 gas stations. No flat tire on that trip.

However, in about 2.5 years of PiP ownership, I've had 4 screws/nails in 3 different tires. 2 of those incidents are in my drive way (I think), thanks to the great job gutter guy did.

PiP is our only car so I need a spare, especially with now 10 months old daughter.

 

I had a screw in our tire last summer.
It created a slow leak. I filled it, and drove in to get it fixed.

I love the quality of modern tires.