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  1. El Dobro

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    I have two charging stations at home.
     
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    How many Americans don’t have that availability? Apartment owners/renters, condo renters/owners, Mobil park renters/owners. Home use Chargers are not available for everyone.
     
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    Yet we have thousands of advertisements and agencies in this country
     
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    is that what advertising is for? Seems toyota/Lexus was trying to falsely smear the competition ... which primarily happens when your own product can't stand on its own merits .... so Toyota had to make stuff up.

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    Nothing false there. Did Tesla sue, did Nissan sue, did GM sue?
     
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    A host of exciting electric vehicles are on the horizon. A few include the Audi e-tron GT, Audi e-tron Sportback, BMW i4, Lucid Air, Mercedes-Benz EQC, Mercedes-Benz G-Class Electric, Volkswagen ID 4, Tesla Roadster, Rivian R1T, and Rivian R1s. Unfortunately, while these electric vehicles will look to expand the growing number of entries in the world of battery-powered machines, it’s unlikely that they’ll help consumers make the switch. More options, even if they’re more affordable and have more range, don’t fix the issue of consumer knowledge.
     
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    That's the point. General advertising is the least effective means. When a company can't get the desired goal for free, they pay for it.
     
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    Or the company is running in the red and can’t afford a PR division.
     
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    Tesla said it delivered a record 139,300 cars in the third quarter. For Tesla investors, that’s the good news. The bad news is that the company finds itself saddled with factory overcapacity. Maybe advertising would help?
     
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    Unclear what mythical company you reference. However, Tesla has had 4 consecutive quarters of profitability and has been making continued massive investments in infrastructure including gigafactories and their charging network.
     
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    But sales in China have been flat all year, and sales in Europe are down. Given that the Shanghai plant increased Tesla’s annual production capacity by 40%, “selling another 27,000 cars isn’t stellar,” said Matthias Schmidt, publisher of the European Electric Car Report in Berlin. This is regarding 3rd quarter sales.
     
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    you can't sue if there are no damages.
    no one believed it - so - no damages. Proof of no damages come in the way of ever increasing EV sales ... even getting in line for the next offering;
    Tesla Cybertruck Reservations 713,000. Fisker Electric SUV: 7,062

    middle of lockdown pandemic / job losses and yet manufacturers can't buid 'em fast enough.
    hydrogen? maybe in 10 years.
    27,000 in the middle of a lockdown job losses pandemic .... whereas the hydrogen car & truck & bus industry - ALL manufacturers, would do cartwheels w/ those numbers .... even over the next 5 years, during 100% healthy world scenario.

    maybe in 10 years.
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    Nice whack-a-mole strategy. Repeated false claims debunked and instead of owning the false claims just moving on...
     
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    Mirai 2021 to be released next month.
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    some will find the looks very nice . . . .
    will you trade up?
    maybe when the 3yr municipal leases run out? If you don't drive out of state - they seem to be a real bargain!
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    Meet the Other Kind of Electric Car: Hydrogen Fuel Cell EVs

    Maybe 10 percent of Californians could name a fuel cell vehicle that's currently for sale," said Scott Hardman, an electric vehicle researcher at the UC-Davis Institute of Transportation Studies that conducts annual surveys on EV awareness. "More than half the state doesn't even know Tesla exists."
     
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    And how many do? I would guess millions. Now, how many have the capability to charge a FCEV at home?
     
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    That's to protect crony dealerships in all the states like these not marked;

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    So - why be surprised that some don't know of Tesla ...
    Dealerships are an old form of protectionism - originally preventing "Manufacturers" from competing w/ dealerships. Now the dealerships fear Tesla, so they sue to keep 'em out. From Wike;

    Despite Manufactuers & dealerships trying to keep people ignorant of Teslas . . . . there have been DMV registered teslas in every state for over a half decade now.

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    so - the fact that the author reports some state citizens are ignorant of Tesla ... and the fact of crony dealerships attempts to keep them out ... hasn't kept Tesla down. it just means Tesla sales are driven by word of mouth in those states.
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    I put half of my 401k money in TSLA stock at ~$60/share adjusted for the 5-to-1 split. It closed Friday at $434/share. Other recent news:
    • "Tesla (TSLA) announces $5 billion capital raise — taking advantage of stock price’s meteoric rise" in September 2020
    • Tesla Shanghai plant is producing Teslas.
    • Tesla Berlin factory is up to walls and roof. Production starts in 2021
    • Tesla Austin factory is laying foundations. Production starts in 2021
    One of the better, recent reviews:

    He concludes only VW has a chance of competing with Tesla but everyone else is wandering in the wilderness.

    It doesn't matter how many false SHORT claims are echoed here by a fuel cell advocate. TSLA investors and Tesla customers remain pretty happy with how things are going: Tesla Topped 1st Place in Consumer Reports Owner Satisfaction Survey

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    No charge needed, 5 minutes at the tank and off I go. Just like old times!