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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Sad to say, truckers do not have Full Self Driving. As for pilots, there have been cases of the flight crews falling asleep on long flights and not dying. Full Self Driving is at least as capable as aviation autopilot which lacks operator monitoring. In effect, both AutoPilot and Full Self Driving have "dead man's switch" nags that if ignored, will safely bring the car to a stop.

    Each way between Huntsville AL and Starbase TX is a 24 hour duration trip taken in 1.5-2.5 hour FSD segments with 15-30 min charging breaks. One of my stored seat setting is "cat nap" which I use as needed at a charger. A full charge lets me skip the next SuperCharger or if I want take a longer nap at a free L2 charger. For example, my longest drive was ~30 hours, 1,227 mi, from Huntsville AL to Alburquerque NM and included naps at free L2 stations. These charging-naps bridged the gaps in the SuperCharger network. But I may be unique.

    In high school, college, and work, I have spent 24 hours working difficult problems. The longest was 3 days getting ready for a satellite launch when I would nap in the back seat of a non-reclining car. Perhaps no one else has ever pulled an 'all nighter.'

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Nor mention of the accident he caused after using FSD for, what was it, 17 hours prior.

    The introduction of more capable ADAS trucks won't negate the need for duty limits and rest periods. Autopilot did not do so for flight crews. "No body died" is a poor excuse to drive while fatigued, which can be as bad as driving drunk. Doubt it saved those sleeping flight crews from losing their jobs. Then crews have overflown destinations, because they stopped paying attention to flying.

    How many decades ago was that?
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    As long as they remain L2, we agree. So FSD monitors the driver and nags us to stay alert. When it reaches L4-L5, they won't be needed.

    My most recent "all nighter" was June 6, 2024, the Starship #4 launch and subsequent return home. A couple of months before, to attend Uncle Frank's funeral. A year before, my Mom's memorial service and subsequent internment at Arlington. A year before that, ~4,000 mi trip to Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Vicksburg, and home.

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    How is that different from "As for drivers, there have been cases of DWI and not dying"?

    As if a few successes excuse all the failures? That is a seriously pathetic rationalization, standing safety culture on its head.
    Yes, I did a number of 'all nighters' over my school and work years. None involved anything connected to personal or public safety, where the errors could main or kill someone.
     
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