Featured Tesla Model 3 LR Vs Hyundai Ioniq 5: Fast Charging Comparison

The topic is thermals. At least try to stay on topic.

 

Not defending one or the other, but I believe the great redundancy is standardization. If all chargers are the same for all cars (even if then adaptable for user/car preference/capacity/cost), the cost of grid implementation, as well as the velocity that it happens, triggering mass adaption of vehicular electrification, is a definite bonus.
If companies are spending money on proprietary chargers, in effect, multiplying ad infinitum money and resources spent on them, we are all worse off.

After all, we all fuel at a 3rd party fuelling network....

 

The topic is addressed as the copper electrode appears to provide the thermal control needed. Over control does not make it better but more costly.

Bob Wilson

 

Still inferior. Maybe that's why the Ioniq 5 charges faster for longer.

Or better - 18 minutes 10-80% - more than 20% faster than the fastest Tesla.

 

When my 50,950 mi Tesla needs replacement, we’ll do a market survey.

Bob Wilson

 

Good thermals in a battery configuration that has poor density isn't a solution worth considering IMO. So the pouch needs to be competitive in kwh/kg.

Mike

 

All current batteries have poor energy density, and Tesla uses even poorer density batteries in China and perhaps elsewhere in the form of Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. Many may switch to those because they contain easy to source materials and are thus cheaper, but with lower energy density. So don't dismiss lower energy density batteries out-of-hand. There are good reasons to use them. Another example of that is a PHEV - higher power lower energy cells are used because the battery is smaller but has to produce the same power.

 

Watching YouTube vid's of the Ioniq5's 800v charging in the EU seems to be disappointing to users. Charger's capability to do what they're supposed to at the rate & duration they're supposed to is very spotty. Last video watched was a 1,000km trip. Optimistically, a work in progress.
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