Tesla is about to release the beast.

There is nothing wrong with Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Even the Tesla fanboys suffer from FUD. And with good reason. The fundamentals of economics say one thing: "Tesla, as we know it, is doomed." Tesla may rise from bankruptcy (bye, bye warranties on existing cars along with free charging) or be propped up the the Trump Adminisration, but it will not survive in its current state.

 

I'll take some of that!

It is 100-percent impossible for Tesla to survive in its current state.

If Tesla IS GOING TO SURVIVE, it's going to have to get better than it is now.
Keeping people on multi-year delivery promises, having "Jaguar/Range Rover" customer loyalties that match "Jaguar/Range Rover" reliability ratings, and operating with multi-gigabuck debt loading, AND constantly boasting about ground-breaking technological advances that are always 'right around the corner' is simply not sustainable.
If they were Space-X?
Maybe.
Space-X is a PRIVATE company.
Tesla is a public company.
Somebody go and ask the facebook what difference that might make......or Sears.

Fanboys or not......big T is either going to slay those dragons and THRIVE.....or they're going to be dragon chow.
It's simply not possible for them to continue to do a fandance on the razor thin margin between those two outcomes.

 

Interesting. Got a timeframe on that?

 

Tesla obviously has to continue to grow, learn, and improve.
They have been doing so for years, and I see know reason they won’t continue to improve.

Even new orders of a Model 3 are not any longer on multi year waits.
The have better customer loyalties than Jaguar.
On the whole, they have better reliability ratings than Jag.

Obviously, Tesla will continue to improve, or ‘slay those dragons’ as you say.
If any company stops improving and innovating they will wither and die.

 

What's the current wait for a "3"?

@ reliability:
That's subjective of course, but JDP says that you're wrong.
I chose Range Rovaah and Jag-u-are to compare Tesla with not because I have a beef to pick with British auto makers - but rather that these both represent automotive brands whose styling and character are stunning enough overcome what could be VERY charitably referred to as not being the most reliable vehicles on the planet.

Both makes are well above average in pricing AND they both have a fanatical following.

I salute Tesla for their contributions to BEV development.....but someday they're going to have to start owning their crap because the people carrying the pitchforks and torches are not ALWAYS going to have their back......

 

The certainties on both sides of many pro and anti Tesla arguments on this and other boards seem intriguing.

 

Thanks.
I'll accept that as being reliable info.

$50 kilobucks is not an inconsequential price to pay for a car, but that's probably not very far from what the real-world average price of a truck is if you back out all of the stripped out fleet models.
They're actually being pretty smart getting higher end orders cranked out first while the federal tax kickbacks are still in play.

 

That is SELLING and DELIVERING the associated number of cars ... on a sustained basis. For a niche automobile. Not likely.

 

looks like they were wrong. again.

 

maybe getting false information from inside saboteur's?

 

this is what amazes me.

 

The projections from the article have proven to be wrong, which does cast a shadow on everything else in it. I'm not sure that proves your conspiracy theories, however.

 

they haven't given up.