Taking delivery of my Model S today! (12/2/12)

Nothing wrong with that. Everyone's driving patterns and needs are different.
Since we started driving electric we have just found out how rarely we actually drive more than 160 miles in a day.
For us, it is 1-3 times a year. Considering all the benefits of electric, and the hassle, low performance/drive quality, and high cost to society of gas, we just couldn't justify a gas burner.
We expect to trade cars with a neighbor or rent when we need to take longer trips.

 

Ouew! Didn't think if that! She already likes it and I haven't bought one yet... I expect that's a clue... I know I can't afford two,..... LOL!

Alan.. Sent with Tapatalk 2

 

Hey Evan did you see this on the Tesla site? Do they come with the adapter or do you have to purchase separately?
Shop Tesla Gear — SAE J1772

 

My bud has a Tesla and it comes with one J1772 adapter , but I guess there is a way to get a replacement if you manage to lose one.

Someone needs to craft a 2 x J1772 (15kW) --> Tesla 20kW adapter.

 

Yeah, I was browsing the site and they have different adapters to NEMA and J plugs. Still wondering why they went with their proprietary plug other than to make sure only the S can use the Supercharger feature

 

Actually, the S comes with three adapters. NEMA 14-50, J1772 and a standard 110 volt outlet. If anyone doesn't get all of those they should contact [email protected]. I know some of those have been in short supply at times.

Their proprietary plug is simply better, and handles a larger charge than the alternatives right now.
It is more elegant as well, smaller, easier to 'hide' on the car and doesn't require a second charge port for quick charges, or a huge 'frankenplug' as many have taken to calling one of the other 'solutions' out there.

 

Couple this with a solar power solution, and transportation ends up costing no more than the car payment and the occasional routine maintenance.

 

The 1990's Rav4-EV group has several members who've passed the 150,000 mile threshold. Even beyond the 15 year age thing ... the mileage thing is quite an accomplishment.

 

I just wish I would have went whole hog and bought stock when this thread first started!

Alan.. Sent with GS4

 

Cpr to this thread...
Evan, how are your batteries holding our after all this time?

Alan............. Huh?..... What hump?

 

Yea, how about mini review with annual data?

 

Tesla stock went up 15.74% today!

Alan............. Huh?..... What hump?

 

Admire!

 

Really looking forward to an update. The Tesla S is an amazing car. They're starting to sell them here now in RHD form and they're getting great reviews. It's an electric car that ticks the boxes and has a usable range, not the usual 'upto 100 miles' most of the others offer.

 

I'm not Evan, however I would happily provide my data points.
My wife and I own both a S85 and 60.
We have 23,500 miles on the 85kWh over about 15 months and 8,500 miles on the 60 over about 8 months.

At 12 months (18,500 miles) the 85 had its annual service. It was averaging 332 Wh/mile (almost exactly 3 miles/kWh) according to the dash. The battery capacity loss tested at about 2.75%
The information I have is the Lithium battery capacity loss is front loaded. They loose capacity relatively quickly in the first 3-6 months and then the rate slows down.

If the rate were linear, we would reach 70% capacity at about 11 years and 203,000 miles.

With our 85, we had a few minor issues. Seat belts in the back would bind up on occasion, seat belts squeaked, etc. As one of the very early ones we expected some of this. All were taken care of cheerfully and professionally at no cost.
In our 60, these seemed to be ironed out and we have had no such issues.

I've been tracking daily energy use in both cars as well as meter use.
This summer an update was rolled out that cut the vampire draw by about 75%.
Fuel has cost s between 2 and 4 cents a mile depending upon season. For our 85, we have spend approximately $650 dollars to go that 23,000 miles. In a similarly sized sedan gas would have run us about $3,500, in our former Prius it would have been about $1600.

 

Here is a summary of the data for our 85kWh.
Comparing temperature and daily distance with Wh/mile as measured by the car.

While distance driven changes the efficiency, it was fun to see the efficiency's inverse correlation to temperature.

 

I want to point out that the kWh dash report does not include charging loss, from the wall.

Regarding vampire draw, how many miles were you losing per day?

When the update cut it down by about 75%, does it sacrifice battery life? I would imagine, less energy is now used to regulate the temp of the battery pack.

According to EPA, 60kWh model is more efficient, probably due to less weight. Is it what you are seeing? I understand the drivers are different.