Smoke and Mirrors

It's not that we have an allegiance for Toyota... it's that you brought misinformation here, and we refuse to let that stand.

 

I don't think it would be presumptuous of me if i said i speak for everyone here that no one agrees with you that Toyota is pushing trucks as hard or harder than hybrids.

Toyota is not some charity or a saint. As has been said at least a dozen times by pretty much everyone except for you, TOYOTA IS A BUSINESS. They are out to make money, and it's not realistic for them to DROP their truck business. At least not overnight.

I keep saying it. Toyota does trucks to be diverse. Simple. end of story.

 

get your flags ready, there will be a major waving for you to do that day

 

No. SIGH...

You're a broken record.

Hybrids is an overarching strategy that goes BEYOND the opening of one plant. It's not a smokescreen, it's STRATEGY to hybridize all cars. Get that through your thick skull.

NOTHING CHANGES OVERNIGHT. GET IT? A PLANT OPENING, A PLANT CLOSING, CHANGES NOTHING...

WHY DON'T YOU GO ON A HUNGER STRIKE IN FRONT OF THAT PLANT IF IT MEANS SO MUCH AND IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE END OF AMERICA AND NOT...

 

What "passion" for Toyota are you referring to? To me it's just one more giant company that should be carefully watched. Like all big companies, as they usually do NOT have our best interest at heart.

You've already admitted that GM had some serious corporate bungling and that Toyota made "no serious strategic errors." So it's somehow BAD that Toyota was smart enough to figure out the car market?

This thread keeps getting better and better. Co-workers at the office are insisting I print out daily updates to pin on the corkboard by the water cooler. Even my manager, who normally frowns on personal Internet use during company time, has started following this thread.

In a way you're very "special" to have caught the attention of Chemical Engineers, Electrical Engineers, and Mechanical Engineers, all PE certified. "Special" in a different sense of course, a couple have begun to wonder if the Republic is doomed.

Us professional folks - who have to work for a living in highly responsible and stressful occupations - tend to place blame for the present social and economic ills squarely on the folks who caused it:

Us.

Not a foreign country, not a foreign company, but the person who stares back in the mirror. So if that bothers you, well tough, maybe better learn to deal with it. It's very convenient - and also a too easy way out - to take pot shots at them thar foreign peoples.

 

Why do you keep saying that?......Like it has been said before...we buy the car because it was a hybrid, not because it is a Toyota.

What we have a passion for is fuel efficiency, quality, and the distaste for misinformation. That is why most of us have something to say about your rhetoric. Throughout this thread, you have turned information around, misquoted, changed the subject, and manipulated words...

the "passion for Toyota" statement is another fine example.

You actually remind me of a used car salesman...probably at the Chevy lot in the "preowned" section.....thin little greasy mustache. Oh, another character you could be is the loser in "True Lies" that tries to seduce Arnie's wife, Jamie Lee Curtis...he was a used car salesman too...

 

Something you may have not thought about Malorn: How is Toyota going to convince the average truck buyer to get a hybrid Toyota truck if they think Toyota trucks are useless? Plus, how is one truck plant negate the 200K+ hybrids they are going to be producing in 2006?

 

Agree on all points.

We are pissed because you continuously spin your own opinion as fact, and continue to pull out misinformation out of your butt.

 

you got him depressed again

 

I'm not sure about the potshots at foreign people, though we can all read between the lines.

But we all know that you've taken full aim at the intelligence of everyone at Priuschat. We've not tried to sell you anything, just pointed out your misinformation. All you've tried to do is sell us a GM product.

Go away little man.

Moderator - let's go home.

 

Why must you take ever single comment from people as an insult to your honor, that somehow he was saying that you're not a professional. His entire point was that he got a room of professional engineers to agree with him about this subject, which is rare.

You made an insinuation about WWII and Toyota's involvement. That was a low blow.

And you continue to talk about Toyota as if the company lies to the american people. You talk about Toyota as if it is the problem.

 

Walmart, I understand. But I have never seen a single Toyota Ad claiming to be an American company...

I see plenty of Hybrid Synergy Drive commercials claiming better emissions, which is true.

I also see plenty of stupid Toyota commercials about how Toyota truck drivers are hip and ride mountain bikes... and other stupid commercials about how tough their trucks are.

Perhaps television is different where you are.

 

You folks must really like Malorn a lot for you to dance on the ends of his strings for two solid days!

 

Whatever. At least the PC people are getting some good points in.

 

<_< Do you honestly think he cares about PC folks' points.
He's just here to tweak folks as much as he can.
His success at hijacking this site has been pretty disappointing.

 

You continue to insinuate that people who don't think like you and don't buy domestic cars like you are :

a. unpatriotic
b. short sighted

You may not be taking potshots at Toyota, but you are belittling a lot of people here, and the American carbuyer. Just because we don't buy an American car doesn't mean we don't support this country.