slow loading

oh ok. that i know about. and you do have the option to add FF and Mozilla to your startup menu for quicker initial load times. then its not as slow.

realize that any 3rd party app would have to do this and doing this only puts it on even par with IE. only thing is IE doesnt give you the option of not pre-loading it. it is done without anyway of choosing not to.

 

Dave,

So that I'm clear on this, what you're talking about is "pinning" FF to the Start menu, right? If so, that's done. Also, I added FF to Windoze Prefetch.

Not a huge deal or anything since FF only takes a few seconds more to start up than IE the first time I start it following bootup. After that, it starts just about as quickly as IE, of course.

 

yep thats it but even doing that will not give any 3rd party app an advantage of IE. but when you look at load times, the difference is about 2 secs on the first load but if you time the speed after the window opens they are about the same.

this is a microsoft design tool to make IE more attractive over other browsers. it didnt convince me of anything though other than that if the browser gets corrupted that its more likely to hurt the rest of the machine. something that Mozilla or FF doesnt have to worry about as much

 

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IE cheats because many of its dlls (dynamically linked libraries) are already loaded as part of the OS whereas Firefox has to completely load its code from scratch.

Now if you go back to Mozilla, it offers this preload ability with the "quick launch" option. However, Mozilla's memory footprint is bigger than Firefox's.

I personally stick with FF, and just don't close it down unless I'm rebooting or trying to fix a hang/crash bug.

However, keeping the browser resident is possibly tempered by a Gecko bug that I don't know if it has been fixed by 1.7.8 (Mozilla & FF 1.04). Many of the dlls used to get aggressively swapped out when the browser is minimized to the taskbar, and then there would be heavy swap back in on reactivation that actually takes longer than killing the browser and starting it up from scratch.

FF/Mozilla is still better, and I haven't seen this issue lately in 1.04/1.7.8.

 

load times are not an issue for me since i connect to the internet for 2-3 weeks at a time on a dialup connection. i reboot only from old habit and to give the telephone service a 2 minute rest. because having a 56 k dialup is just slow all over, i never close the browser on this computer. (dont really use this computer for much more than browsing and email stuff anyway)

 

Okay, FF 1.04 still has the swap out problem. To fix it type "about:config" into your URL bar (without the quotes of course).

Then, right-click and create a new boolean called:
config.trim_on_minimize

and set it to false.

Or follow the tuning guides from Google.