SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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  1. frodoz737

    frodoz737 Top Wrench

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    The COVID "vaccines" never worked against any variant...period.
     
    #6921 frodoz737, Feb 7, 2025 at 12:04 AM
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    tochatihu Senior Member

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    One voice here would supersede epidemiological research only by saying so. PriusChat's diversity allows this to happen, and I say YES! Let it be claimed. Diversity is not a minus for us.
     
    #6922 tochatihu, Feb 7, 2025 at 12:33 AM
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    Yep...all those "vaccinated" folks i know of (including me and mine) that still got this bug must have been faking it...or just were not diverse enough.
     
    #6923 frodoz737, Feb 7, 2025 at 12:47 AM
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    or unable to think in probabilities
     
    #6924 ChapmanF, Feb 7, 2025 at 9:18 AM
  5. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    I know that was a typo, but they are often more true than what you meant to say.
     
    #6925 hyo silver, Feb 7, 2025 at 1:40 PM
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    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    I guess different people have different definition of how well vaccines work

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    #6926 3PriusMike, Feb 7, 2025 at 2:36 PM
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    Same science that also said that later variants along the same timeline were less deadly. Go figure.
     
    #6927 frodoz737, Feb 7, 2025 at 2:38 PM
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    The herd immunity?
     
    #6928 hill, Feb 7, 2025 at 7:11 PM
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    Really ? .... yer wealthiest guy in the world is working on getting a hold of a little more cash? There's a guy who gave up how many gajillian's so fake news Twitter could be less bias ? It would have been so easy to ride the wave of complacency and continually getting richer & richer .... but no ... be was willing to face the status quo law fair that comes with crossing the globalist mentality.
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    #6929 hill, Feb 7, 2025 at 7:19 PM
  10. tochatihu

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    Herd immunity is evaded by frisky gene-swapping HxNx influenza viruses. So, new influenza multi vaccines are made every year, and with low uptake and targets partially missed, hold mortality below 100,000 each year.

    The feared H5N1 virus is among those. Highly Pathenogenic Avian Influenza HPAI is an abbreviation worth knowing. Any HxNx influenza virus that can gene swap to become HPAI means trouble. HPAI viruses have only 'done' chickens so far and only increased egg prices. That seems a small thing as no one suggests that HPAI viruses cannot blunder into human to human transfer. If they do, we will need massive manufacture, deployment and uptake of vaccines, made correctly 'up to the moment'.

    COVID did not 'bring the house down', though it gave a solid shot before morphing to less deadly. It had a point source, however that point source is described. The HxNx influenza viruses blundering to become HPAI and blundering to develop human to human transfer are all over the damn place.

    This is not like that.
     
    #6930 tochatihu, Feb 7, 2025 at 7:43 PM
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    mRNA vaccines can be rapidly revised but have so far been USA-made things. There is now a possibility that USA companies will be told to stand down by new HHS leadership. EU pharmaceutical companies might step up to fill this gaps. I have seen no evidence that China pharmaceutical companies are moving to mRNA vaccine development.
     
    #6931 tochatihu, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:02 PM
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    So the manufacturer of the virus doesn't use the mRNA vaccine???

    Hmmmmmm....
     
    #6932 ETC(SS), Feb 7, 2025 at 8:15 PM
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    If I could get mRNA vaccine here, I would, and we'd have to go back many pages in this discussion to say when I first said so.

    mRNA vaccine makers in US are world's best but may face rough water ahead for new vaccines against frisky influenza or anything else. Look to HHS for new guidance on that. Or look to EU unencumbered by new ideological guidance. Last, look to China that has not disclosed mRNA research.
     
    #6933 tochatihu, Feb 7, 2025 at 8:59 PM
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    Manufacturer (nation) of a virus may be a juicy movie plot, but this might not be a great time to get Producer$ on board.
     
    #6934 tochatihu, Feb 7, 2025 at 9:04 PM
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    In the sometimes-there's-a-bit-of-good-news department, I just noticed my local pharmacy now stocks at-home combination tests for SARS-CoV-2 and influenza A and B.
     
    #6935 ChapmanF, Feb 9, 2025 at 10:31 AM
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    Many in the US claim the whole aim of pandemic response was to change the definition of vaccine to include mRNA and push the mRNA vaccine as the only solution for COVID.
     
    #6936 Prodigyplace, Feb 9, 2025 at 10:37 AM
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    As non-USA born technologists flee, other peoples will gain their expertise and assume the mantle. A practical example, Tesla and electric cars. The next leading EV makers are started by and often run by employees Musk chased off. China readily exploited that expertise and now leads in EV production to the point of dominating markets.

    Bob Wilson
     
    #6937 bwilson4web, Feb 9, 2025 at 11:01 AM
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    Oh yes the pendulum swings both ways. Had quite a few conversations with eX NASA scientists / engineers who begrudged Musk when he poached fellow NASA geniuses / engineers who were disheartened by NASA'a idiotic bureaucracy.
    The challenger's SRB O-rings comes to mind.
     
    #6938 hill, Feb 9, 2025 at 11:33 AM
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    tochatihu Senior Member

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    #6939 tochatihu, Feb 9, 2025 at 5:51 PM
  20. frodoz737

    frodoz737 Top Wrench

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    That's good...if they will come up with one that actually works.
     
    #6940 frodoz737, Feb 9, 2025 at 6:56 PM
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