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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

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    So yeah, what is lethality of this bad boy?

    China's first round will present about 83 thousand case and about 3300 deaths, just shy of 4%. South Korea (by my analysis that would be complicated to explain) is just below 1.5%. I have read explanations (apologies) that Wuhan was simply overwhelmed in mid February. Those may not pertain to our future.

    Keep in mind that this virus is mutating in the human chain and dead people is not the 'goal'. Maximal # of viral copies is.

    Jumping to humans is an excellent viral strategy in light of how we interact with each other. OTOH, only our species pushes back with medical technology. 'Choosing' humans for replication is both a very good and very bad plan.

    If this bad boy can 'do the world' without killing too many, it will join a few others in massive self thing making. Snakes and bats and pangolins suck at supporting that.
     
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    WHO has not called this a pandemic. Sustained local transmission in more than one continent is their definition and it has been satisfied. There might be valid reasons for not 'calling it' but I don't know them.

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    From WHO #44
    "Four new Member States (Argentina, Chile, Poland and Ukraine) have reported cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours."
    New cases in China are 120 and outside, 2013.
     
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    I think I have a good doc, hopefully, she’ll do what’s best
     
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    Here's how you interpret that. Current testing methods are insufficient, invalidating all your data.
     
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    This virus doesn't appear to be seasonal. Just look at the warm countries with a +20% per day increase in cases.

    Pixel XL ?
     
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    Ya, that’s not a good thing. I wonder how they do with the flu
     
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    Over 1,000 people quarantined in New York
     
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    Washington State's count is now 70 cases, 11 dead.

    51 cases in King County, 18 in Snohomish County, and now 1 in Grant County.

    With more schools closed, and King County's official recommendation (not requirement) for higher risk (*) people to stay home or avoid larger crowds, and everyone work from home where practical, with many tech companies cooperating, this morning's traffic congestion was far lighter than normal.

    The County does not recommend school closing unless a case is known to be associated with a particular school. Past research has shown that preemptive school closing are highly disruptive, and tend to be ineffective because the kids then go congregate at the shopping malls and spread the contagions even faster.

    (*) "higher risk" includes everyone age 60 and up, along with the usual others with health conditions.
     
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  9. George W

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    I wonder if there is any fact behind something an ex-military medtech told me today, that this particular strain of Corona originated from snake meat?
     
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    I don't know if I'd give that any more credence than if I'd heard it from some guy on a hybrid car forum.

    Besides the snake doesn't care, he's not going to clean up the mess.
     
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    china closed all the exotic markets, that tells you all you need to know. which particular reptile, does it matter?
    word on the street is that the black market will thrive, it's too culturally iongrained
     
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    Ft. Bend County, part of the greater Houston area, has reported it's first confirmed covid-19 case.

    Meanwhile, the Houston livestock show and Rodeo has started. For those that don't know, it's the largest indoor Rodeo in the world and brings in millions of people from all over. The Mayor announced that there will be extra hand sanitation stations. He also suggested that residents not travel but rent hotels in the area, for spring break, and treat yourself to a nice staycation.

    Texas' SxSW festival has been plagued with numerous companies and sponsors pulling out ahead of it's start next week. Smart!

    I will be activating my six weeks of vacation very soon. Maybe I can finally catch up on all my projects around the house.
     
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    i'm still trying to figure out how not to touch my face
     
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    funny story, the San Antonio Live Show and Rodeo exposed visitors to Rabies this year. Apparently a young 4-H'r showed his infected animal at the Cattle Barn. Anyone who may have petted this cow around its nose might want to see a doctor.
     
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    Elsewhere, I heard it was probably from bats, though transferred through pangolins. Though nothing solid yet.

    Since it remains undetermined, shall we start some additional rumors here?;)
     
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    The military has knowledge of biological hazards far in advance of anything the public is allowed to know. I will put more faith in a retired med-tech than some govt agency which can't even communicate a standard of care for infected patients.
     
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    My "bat" sources are not from said government agency, but are through some named science channels and independent news outlets, so I continue to give them higher credence than some random anonymous tech.

    But it is still quite weak.
     
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    Good choice of words! :D
     
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    tennessee man diagnosed with covid flew in and out of boston airport
     
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    Science channels who depend on funding to stay afloat. right.