SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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  1. bwilson4web

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    Sounds nice but even nicer when a second or third paper shows the effect. This is not a medical protocol, yet.

    Talking about animal models:
    Nearly 10,000 minks dead from Covid-19 outbreak at Utah fur farms | Animals | The Guardian

    Almost 10,000 minks in Utah have reportedly died due to Covid-19, spurring quarantines at nine fur farms impacted by the outbreak.

    The state’s veterinarian, Dean Taylor, reportedly said that coronavirus had mostly impacted older minks, “wiping out 50% percent of the breeding colonies.” Younger minks were largely unharmed, he said.

    The first known Covid-19 cases among US minks were in Utah, with their diagnoses confirmed in mid-August, the federal Department of Agriculture (USDA) said. Authorities learned about minks contracting coronavirus after farm workers tested positive, Taylor told NBC News.
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  2. ILuvMyPriusToo

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    The drug store shelves were quickly emptied back in April, when most folks were fighting over TP.
    Still awaiting definitive double blind studies, but as a safe and cheap therapeutic it should be getting a lot of attention.
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/new-york-clinical-trial-quietly-tests-heartburn-remedy-against-coronaviruC
     
  3. tochatihu

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    == (from ABCNEWS)
    "BEIJING — China’s government says all 9 million people in the eastern city of Qingdao will be tested for the coronavirus this week after nine cases linked to a hospital were found.

    The announcement Monday broke a string of weeks without any locally transmitted infections reported in China.

    The National Health Commission said authorities were investigating the source of the infections found in eight patients at Qingdao’s Municipal Chest Hospital and one family member. The commission said the whole city will be tested within five days."

    This will be pooled sample testing again. They may pool 'bigger' than 10, but not disclose.
     
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    Somehow I missed the H2 blocker action in April. The enzyme it appears to bother is a helicase. DNA (&RNA) are helical, held in place by hydrogen bonds. Helicase needs to unwind that before anything else happens.
     
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    it's often difficult to make sense of much of the now available statistics. For example, deaths per
    Capita - Montana runs in the lowest 14%. Or Florida, opening up things like theme parks, are lower in death rates by several States compared to Jersey & New York - which top the list with their much heavier lockdown requirements. Maybe that's because more sickly/elderly are up there?
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    Maybe do Sean Connery is smarter than we thought
     
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    High death rates in the early states was due to unknown degree of contagiousness and severity.

    Look at the numbers since we figured those things out
     
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    Later states had the advantage of others trial by fire, and yet, many continue to ignore the science
     
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    Time-Lapse: How The Coronavirus Has Spread Across The U.S.

     
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    pretty cool. i suppose that is based on poor reporting early on, and even now, questionable.

    interesting how there were some early midwest cases that didn't spread too rapidly. nature of the population i suppose.
     
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    At the bottom corner, it says: Source: WHO, USA Facts, BING COVID Tracker
    I believe from daily reported cases at county level.
     
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    I live in the very first state to announce any deaths, though one other state did retrospectively identify two earlier deaths.

    In fact, the first U.S. case, the first U.S. school closures, and the first announced U.S. deaths (one-third of a nursing home killed in three weeks), were all within my normal from-home exercise bicycling range.

    Yet, despite us being State Zero, without any prior examples and instead being the example from which other states could start learning before they got hit, 35 states now have worse death rates than we do. The national average (664 deaths per 1M residents, on Worldometer) is more than double my state's rate (288).

    Clearly, most states did not take sufficient advantage of the early warnings we gave.
     
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    cuomo said it was in ny months before they knew
     
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    2,500,000 minks to be slaughtered in northern Denmark to control their farm outbreak.
     
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    COUGH COUGH.

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    New infections are at all-time highs in many countries and almost half of US states. Efforts towards lung separation seem less aggressive now than in earlier time of rapid increase. Aggressive testing, contact tracing, and isolation have worked best with low incidence. In many places, that will help less going forward.

    So, where are we headed with this thing? Global deaths passed a million recently, and not passing two million will be an effort. An effort by medical community who might rather have some spare time to deal with everything else. Also, (current) therapeutics for all would transfer a mountain of money to some companies. Could be a good play, as more zoonotics will surely follow.

    By mid-2021 it is to be hoped that several vaccines will become widely available. Goals for virus end-users are not to die and not to have diminished quality of life. They should work and differentiate this one from 1918.

    To run 1918 again, we'd just let transmission take its course and rely on human immune systems to succeed. As they always have in the past (though not for all). It would not be 'modern' to go that way.
     
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    A future zoonotic that better targets young and pre-reproductives would be the real 'killer app'. This is just our rehearsal, coming when global travel, communication, and medical and genomic technologies are so advanced.

    This is why we have rehearsals.
     
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