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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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  1. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    I'm not sure what "permanent" means exactly...but when I had a child in ~3rd grade years ago I went it a couple of days a week and gave 1 on 1 reading support. The teacher sent me to the library with a student and I helped them with reading. A couple of them were way behind. In an online environment these kids will just fall further and further behind.
    Statistically they'll never catch up (as a group), although it is possible that they do well later on if they are properly motivated and have interested parents.

    Mike
     
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    bloomberg: 'covid gag rules at u.s. companies are putting everyone at risk'

    'coronavirus cases at university of alabama rise from 500 to 1,000 in 3 days'
     
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  3. ChapmanF

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    Left to its own devices, it seems to like that rate, which is roughly what we were seeing in February/March. Three days to double is equivalent to ten days to add a zero.
     
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    after drinking all night?

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  5. tochatihu

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    Following posts #2650 and #2651, most states are heading down after recent increases. Those that are still increasing, or not doing better than holding steady in new case rates are shown below.

    Shown are not states with most cases, but those still apparently engaging in excessive lung play. What could convince them to stop it? I am not thinking about punitive measures. Is there a (fair) way to reward states that have recently been high and make great improvements? It benefits locals, overstretched health care systems, as well as out-of-state lungs because of unrestricted travel.

    SD is here even though below my arbitrary 40 thousand case cutoff. Cases there are rapidly increasing.

    US states not doing well.png

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    USA re-opening bump is in or at least moving towards the rear view mirror. There are months of work to do before vaccines arrive. How might that work be done better?
     
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    Spain has a problem.

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    The carrot or stick? I don't have an answer yet.
     
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    Yes, Spain is newly again COVID-hot within EU and some other EU countries are in pursuit. But most new COVID cases are in Americas (N and S) and SE Asia (mostly India).

    In 2 days WHO will emit a new weekly report. From the most recent previous (new daily cases per million population):

    Spain - 70
    Romania - 65
    France - 37
    Russia - 35
    India - 45
    USA - 156
    Brazil - 210
     
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    A few states in NE US (CT, MA, NJ, NY) were hit early (genome seems to have been from Europe). Later they did not have re opening spikes and I can only suppose that they have done best that can be done in US. No other states have done better.

    Over the last 2 months, those states have had 37 new cases per daily per million population. US entire (sourced from other than WHO, compare 156 above) has had 170. So, however one counts, US overall could drop by 36 to 43 thousand cases per day by adopting the most severe infection controls that have already been demonstrated.

    Getting below ~12 thousand new cases per day may be beyond reach until vaccine(s) become available and people broadly accept receiving them.
     
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    As of Saturday, Michigan has had 101,478 confirmed cases including 6,467 deaths and 76,151 confirmed recoveries. The seven day moving average for daily cases per million is about 80, the highest since May. The positive test rate is 3-4%. The rate among students will probably dictate whether more actions take place.
     
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    watching ma fairly closely, they have tried to follow the science. but i think there are too many venues making independent decisions, and it may eventually require stricter enforcement.

    the problem is the rapid spread in a bad situation, and the slow wheels of government.

    it is august 30, right around where they expected to see the low point of the first wave, and we have already seen a bump in the numbers.

    with fall and winter come school openings, college students arriving from hot spots around the country, and more and more indoor activity.
     
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    oh yeah, big time. who knew back then? still embarrassing though
     
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    washington post: 'dr. scott atlas, neuroradiologist from stanford, and newest whitehouse pandemic advisor is pushing for herd immunity strategy'
     
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    Interesting development where a South Korea Church is being sued to pay for the spread of Covid 19 and treatment cost

    S. Korea to seek indemnity against church over COVID-19 treatment costs | Yonhap News Agency

    Maybe they are on to something- wonder what would happen if different State Health Departments wanted to have a long talk with the bars in Sturgis SD or Myrtle Beach who were encouraging tourist to come into these hot spots for Covid about covering their states cost for treating patients whose infection could be traced back to these areas.
     
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    in ma, we fine them $300., uge deterrent :rolleyes:
     
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    Different modeled scenarios with renewed strong mandates or current policies:

    COVID-19
     
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    things are looking pretty good so far, with many school systems open or opening
     
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    Let us hope and pray that that does not turn out to have been a bad move.
     
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