Red bullet VVTI seloniod

Hi CSuirp, that is odd indeed. May I suggest taking it out of ECO mode.
I heard about it on Honda, I know it doesn't apply here but maybe, just maybe it would.
I don't know why or how but maybe your ECO is forcing the VVTI to run on low range while in reality you need that high end performance to come out.
I'm at school right now so keeping it short, but maybe give it a shot.
Royston and I both dont run ECO at all. I nurse the city driving, you know with the technique I explained previous and let the car do its thing on highway and higher load and higher speed.

 

Isn't that interesting? Ztanos I just had a quick look through your fuelly. average 460-470miles per 9.4gal would you say? I can see you do run pretty close to bingo all the time!

I live average of 6 miles too from my lab and campus, the campus around 5.5km - 8.3 km and the lab around 9.4 km and 12 km with mostly 90% in the city, its easy to see with my average speed lately that i am always in traffic. With the Red Bullet I am getting 27km/l which is 63+ miles per gal. My average speed is 24km/h on this majority city driving tank.
I have not had the ECO on since i bought the car.
After my 900km challenge, I am thinking about doing 2 individual runs, just have not decided which to do 1st.

One is to run a tank on ECO and the other is to stay in normal model but with the stock OEM solenoid in the car.
I hope CSuirp will get better results by turning the ECO off. 57 is not a bad run if it is all highway.
I was told by Honda techs that the leaf mode in the civic, fit... were not to be used on highway. Says it does not help with the mileage that much and runs very poorly. I am wondering if that is the case here.
Update we are 750/901km right now. I think by Monday we will have a winner.

 

I think you are totally right about having to include this in the installation manual.

I'm speaking out of my experience.
I tried the ECO mode once on my test drive before signing the vehicle, I had the sales guy next to me and a friend onboard. I was very distracted to say the least, I was also running Dr Prius app on my lap at the time.
I felt the AC ran a bit weaker, blower spool down regulate, throttle response was reduced, and slightly rougher on pickup from a standstill with a choppy vibration feeling when stepping on it for power demand.
I have a theory of what's going on. I'll write my thoughts about the matter in a bit. I just got to the lab on a Saturday.

I am happy its working out for you CSuirp! I had to reply before I am totally swamped.
Keep us posted on your situation!

 

Hi CSuirp!
63.8mpg seems right on the penny buddy! I had exactly that when I did my road trip.
I am so happy for you!
The paddle feathering will need more work now that your length of travel has shortened.

The transmission seems to adapt to the reduced throttle impute as time goes on, maybe you will see the power bar picture drop a bit in the future. I recall that I was doing roughly one quarter in the begining to sustain highway speed on my trip going but as the trip went on the bar went lower and lower with less engine rpm generated/ needed, and to best describe my observation as time goes on, is the CVT goes for a lower ratio sooner reducing the RPM for higher speed.
I feel when I'm cruising at 65-70km that the engine is just running at idling speed. I was even able to continue to accelerate even letting off the gas a bit on flat stretch of road. The engine speed will drop and the car will actually continue to accelerate with less throttle input. In traditional gear terms, the car goes into overdrive earlier even with reduced throttle.

I'm so glad you are getting awesome results. Let's give it a good run before we reach any conclusions. But its nice we have two cars that are stock, running similar highway numbers 10,000km away from each other. Maybe you will do a 560 mile challenge after me!
Remember! Don't get throttle happy!

 

Hi CSuirp! Just quickly ran your trip today through my Asian brain. ( 62.5 +63.8 )/2 = 63.15mpg = 26.84km/l. Our numbers match for highway driving!!
Going one way can usually be biased concerning road condition and geographic location. But doing a return trip eliminates most of the uneven conditions.
Have a great weekend and keep us posted! Let me know if you could hit a all time high in the city this weekend. 70mpg+! With the technique I mentioned before! Good luck!

 

Hi Montgomery,

I really like your wood trim dash. Nice to own a Prius with extra room and fancy trims!
The Red Bullet is not available for ordering here on PriusChat. So hopefully it will be available here soon also.

The promo period is over, but PriusChat members please include your membership avatar and we will extend it to those who have contributed during the discussion, you can also do it for other people too. We extend the benefit to you and your friends.

Thank you for your interests in the Red Bullet. Please share the info that the Red bullet will work with all vehicles that share the 1.8l platform as the prius Gen 3.
Although my stock list says this same variant will fit 2006 all the way to 2017. So this must include the Gen 2.

 

This was a bit faster to the lab today, no traffic on the weekend.
Will be back to campus on Monday. Those are nice 30+ everytime.
Right now we are at close to 800km with 2 bars of gas remaining on the meter. I estimate the point when we hit the last flasher should happen around 815km. Still on schedule to reach the mark of 901km just don't know how much fuel will be left.
Please keep those guess the gas entries coming in.

 

Hope your weekend ECO off is doing you justice.
I have a feeling you will post that number up very soon CSuirp! Keep gliding!

 

Hi CSuirp!

Great! I'm so jellies about the SUNROOF!!! I have not seen one here in Taiwan. Everyone is so afraid of the sun here! I don't know how to live without a sunroof but here its nearly impossible to get one with it. No one orders it like that and dealership discourage customers because they want to sell what they have in inventory. But yeah I'm totally smiling to the thought of your weekend drive.

My data this round for 90% city driving has kept my average in a healthy 27.1+. In the beginning I was gunning for the 30km/l average, but with regular city driving it turned out to be difficult, due to the irregular short trips and running low on battery because I was circling and circling at really slow speed to find a parking spot, depleted my charge. That was a heavy toll on my economy.

For your situation doing side roads will definitely set you on the path to higher numbers then what I have for sure! Given some traffic, you might be able to beat my average this round. Slight traffic with a steady flow improves your glide to ICE ratio which is good for mpg. Heavy traffic or no traffic is not good also because you will either run out of juice going bumper to bumper or need to continually run the ICE to keep up with traffic on a clear road. With your environment, I think you should see high 70+ for trips pretty soon!

I'm really happy you have those results! 177km before hitting the 1st bar gives good projection of a 800km+ tank. Try to observer your range between each fuel drop. If you do well then you should be seeing around 50-60 miles per bar.

Im happy you got to enjoy your vehicle for the weekend and the Red Bullet was able to give you plenty of pop without sacrificing economy! Keep us posted! Don't hesitate to millage brag it!