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Can't wait to see how you op-test the range without being to carry a gallon of gas with you.......

 

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I proposed a very, very short-range emergency energy booster for Teslas on another forum. Considering how many youtube videos I've seen of people pushing their Teslas just a few hundred feed to a charger, it might be useful.

The idea is to carry a power inverter, and the L1 EVSE, and run it for 10 minutes or so off the 12V battery. Should be good for a mile or so.

 

Throw in a fold out solar panel and if you've got a few hours to kill (and a sunny day), you might make it to a charging station a couple more miles away.

 

Wow! Talk about backwards. You brought up the J1772 going up to 19kw...which I said was basically useless. Did you not see my post?
Why would someone install a 19kw charger at home in order to take advantage of time-of-use rates? You are making no sense.
The idea of charging at night is that you have 8 or 10 or more hours to charge. With an ~6kw L2 you can add enough miles for 95% of commuters.

Mike

 

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Bob Wilson

 

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For you, Bob.

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looking forward to your review!
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You are repeating what I already pointed out, the rule-of-thumb: a 40-amp line will deliver 200 miles in 8 hours.

You also sighted a situation when a person with the available capacity could take the most advantage of time-of-use rates. Think about this. It's mid-afternoon and you have a low battery. You want to avoid the dinner-time rate. The fastest charger possible is how you would achieve that.

So what if a person has the ability to rapid recharge at home for opportunity charging but also overnight charges. You have the choice of when and how much. For that matter, you can even choose charging speed.

 

Reasons behind the slowness of EVs adoption in US
Any questions so far??

EVangelists can't even agree on charging strategeries or standards - WHICH haven't really sorted themselves out yet, really.

How do you think all of this sounds to non-eco-nerds, some of whom own houses, some even with garages, and some of whom might actually be willing to hire an electrician to install a charging circuit.

I'm actually thinking about running a in a new 40-amp circuit from my breaker panel to the garage, which for me will be about $160 bucks since I live where I'm free to actually DIY such a project.
It would be much less than that but for the fact that my breaker panel is on the opposite side of my humble dwelling.
I mentioned 6 reasons earlier for the perception that EV adoption rates are considered to be "slow" by some people, and the "how do I charge the bloddy thing?" touches on several of these.


Perspective:
I have three cars, at present. the newest of which is a 2012.
In 2012.....the Nissan Leaf represented the bleeding-leading edge of (*cough!*) 'mass market' BEVs.
It was about $40,000, had a whopping 73mile range and was rated at less than 110-MPGe.
(In case a non-eco-geek ever reads this Prius Primes are rated at 130+ MPGe.........YMMV)

The average car age in the US is actually greater than my newest 2 vehicles, and given the pace of electrification of the US passenger car fleet I would suggest that adoption rates are not "slow" at all but rather proceeding at a rate that threatens to involve even more "standards" struggles.

Finally....
There's the simotaneous development of autonomous driving modes, with their own geeky standards and acronyms that threaten to glaze over the eyes of anyone not already put off by home-charging-not-for-Dummies.

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Which is a huge problem.

Tesla, ICS, CHAdeMO and J1772.

It's maddening, frankly. It's like VHS/Beta, Bluray/HDDVD etc, but with four players instead of two. IT HAS TO STOP!

 

This thread is comical. I feel sorry for y'all's wives.

 

Charging standards are just a FUD issue.

The large majority of BEV owners are only going to charge at home or work at the slow rates of AC charging. There is only one AC standard in a market.

For DC standards, the only question that matters is if the car is a Tesla? If yes, you can use Superchargers. For the others, public chargers are going to support both; the charger actually working is more of a concern at this time.

There is already a slew of acronyms to glaze over the eyes of any car buyer. Just from memory; ABS, LKA, SKS, VSC, TSS, BSM. Does anyone think the typical car buyer knows what all those stand for?

 

i feel bad for their husbands

 

No, there are two - Tesla and J1772.

Tesla owners need to buy a ($127) adapter to use J1772 chargers.

 

I just added our 5th hybrid car. It is a plain simple hybrid not BEV nor PHEV. For a mid size SUV, I had no other choice.

 

pacifica

 

Mid size SUV, not a minivan.

 

Van. I refuse to call anything that's practically big enough to hold my 2004 Prius inside "mini".