Raising of cargo space floor platform

I can't find that thread. It must be lost in all the luggage and cargo in the back of the Prime...

 

Thanks for the info. I can't find this thread either?

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sorry, i was kidding. the complaints are in almost all the prime threads.

 

Is it known how long the cargo area is with back seats down, measured from the backside of the front seats? Is it long enough to put a bicycle there? And how high is the opening at the rear? This might be a second-choice alternative when no bicycle rack is possible.

 

Not sure if this helps to estimate the cargo capacity of the Prime, but I see that the UK Gen4 sales brochure lists the following Luggage capacities without space saver tyre:

Up to tonneau cover, 343 litres
Up to roof, 502 litres
Seats down up to roof 1558 litres

I know we don't necessarily think these figures are realistic, but do we have the same figures for the Prime for comparison?

Sorry in advance if this is already posted here somewhere, I got a bit lost with all the different stats that have been discussed.

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we really need some measurements of the production car. height, width, depth in various areas.

 

probably a mistake, or a different way of measuring.

 

EPA Cargo Space (27.4 ft3) is apparently a different way of measuring, I suspect having to do with window placement and seat placement.

Suffice it to say, Total EPA space = EPA cargo space + EPA passenger space. I assume the EPA Total Interior Space is a good number, but they allow Liftback manufacturers slack on how they define the "gray area" that could be considered either way. I do not like the EPA Cargo space definition, and I assume it is intentionally misleading to allow green cars to claim large cargo space (that does not actually exist).

Now all we need is the spare tire version numbers (Level 3).
We are only halfway there TideLand...and I think there is interesting info to be revealed if we had those numbers (I wonder if there is some minor design difference between Level 3 and 4 that we do not yet understand).

 

I have SAE J1100 2009-11. Maybe I should read it and see what it says?

eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations

 

when will we se the first one on a lot? i see that ventura toyota already has them on their inventory list. then someone can go with a tape measure.

 

Different measuring standards. The US basically goes in with a tape measure for hatchbacks. In Europe, they might use a standard like what we use for trunks, filling up the space with standard sized boxes, and just counting them. This will result in a conservative number since the nooks on the edge are ignored, and space uncounted from the hatch's slant.

 

No one (including me) has yet used my proposed method of drilling a hole in the roof and seeing how many ping pong balls can fill the entirety of the passenger space. When they do, then it will become a universal standard for all vehicles.

 

Something wrong with putting the car on a scale and filling it with water?

 

None, whatsoever. I just thought that ping pong balls would be more Mythbusters-like and add some excitement to the testing. Water, or any other liquid (perhaps not acid) would no doubt prove more accurate for volume, assuming when it is released the car's components wouldn't trap the liquid like a sponge, which they would. Ping pong balls are dry by nature. Ball bearings could also be used, but... the weight - that could be a problem.

 

Well, neither is really indicative of the way cars are actually used. Most things are rectangular or square (i.e. boxes of things). Given the reputation of the Prius, I suggest filling every nook and cranny with Rubik's Cubes, and counting them up.