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Racing a Prius against a Lexus IS-F on the nurburgring

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Hybrid RR, Feb 16, 2011.

  1. Tideland Prius

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    Wow. That is anemic. (and yet I recall the hatred from European forum members on other forums that I visited. The Prius is actually faster than their cars lol. So that's what they're really ashamed of). Also, that is a heavy car - I presume because of the doors. Let me see if I can find that Fifth Gear video with Tom Ford.

    Here it is (for American members who want to know what the 1007 is)


     
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    Yeah, they don't like their masculinity being challenged, particularly in the city for everyone to see when the lights turn green. Especially those stereotypical Top Gear fanboys, boy racers and taxi-drivers.
    The doors are actually pretty light, incase the 12V dies and the door needs to be opened directly. It's actually easier than a minivan's doors, that's with the motors pushing against you.

    The real weight is in the frame of the door sills, above and below. They're super beefy and take up some foot space. I presume they're just made out of a lot of steel.

    It's a shame the 1007 was made how it was, it brought sliding doors to the grave with it. The car is excessively tall to no benefit and the dashboard is criminal. Compared to our cars, mainly the Gen 2, knee room is so liberating for anyone who's really tall. You don't get that in a 1007 if you like to not crush your balls together. The wide center console for the gear shift is intrusive, a flat dashboard that can go below your knee line, and everything is made up of sharp plastics.

    Oh, and you can't even bear travelling more than 20 km/h over speed bumps. It's suspension is a lot more German than French.

    But it gets the job done.
     
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    being married - i no longer worry about that ...
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    I read somewhere that some Peugeot 1007s included ELECTRIC sliding doors.....very cool indeed...!!! I was looking to buy one, but even I found it a bit too weird in looks. Reminded me of a glorified Golf Cart .

    Unfortunately, reliability issues, troublesome electric sliding doors, and a disturbing resemblance to one of those squarish space pods seen milling around the USS Enterprise (in space dock in earth orbit), and lousy MPG figures resulted in me deciding against getting one.


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    Naaw ... thats a shuttlecraft -
    the space pods were for escape - when abandoning ship;
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    I'm referencing the space pods that were part of the space dock inventory.
    You mean one of these:
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    Yup, they were electrically operated - a nifty feature in such a small car.
     
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    Hahahaha! Thank you, Bob Wilson....that was close to the pods I was talking about, but I think there's a much smaller one I was thinking about . As for the BMW i3 ReX, I'd have one of those in a heartbeat - they do look like standard Starfleet issue vehicles .


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    Compared to the traffic I deal with, they are. When we drove to Oklahoma and stopped in Corinth Mississippi, you'd have thought we'd landed a spaceship in the parking lot.

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    probably just me - but i don't see the point ..... the very fastest of the fast street legal cars (costing ~7 figures, +/- a few $100K) are now blasting thru Nuremberg's track in the high 6 minute range. So in other words - the fastest of these super fast production cars are to Lexus IS-F - as the Lexus IS-F is, to the Prius .... ~ 25%-30% slower.
    The only take away is that if you spend more & more cash - you get better handling, quicker take-off, & higher speeds.
    Who knew !!

    As for video? .... it's likely neither of these 2 runs around Nuremberg were video-recorded because it's not high entertainment watching 'average' cars slog around a massive 12/13 mile race track that sees race cars (even exotic street legals) built to generate massive downforce, + do over 200mph, & accelerate 0-60mph in under 3 seconds. Now, some of the fast cars running 6 minute solo runs WILL video - but it's best put together via helicopter drones around the course, as well as 2 or 3 goPro's in the car showing driver, track, & GPS tracking. Sure, some may want to watch a solo run at only 8 or 10 seconds, but some might want to watch a solo cyclist run the track as well. Just Saying. Now ... pit the Prime against the plugin Ionic, running simultaneously? Or the Prime against the Bolt running together? I'd watch that

    Coincidentally a thread was started here on P.C. just a couple days ago about the Nuremberg track record being blown away. The very cool thing is that the vehicle is, ostensibly street legal somewhere / some places in the world, & - it's a very cool lookin ev ;

    here's that post;
    ... meanwhile, on an obscure corner of the Wikipedia ~ | PriusChat
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    As much as I would hold the Prius over a 1007, I won't abandon the latter completely.

    At least in Ireland and the UK, the 1007 wasn't taken seriously at all and there's a good few examples on sale that are over 10 years old, 1 or 2 elderly owners with as little as 60,000. The one my family have was bought with 50,000 miles despite being 10 years old, which is a benefit because it's currently not having an easy life.

    I would say that the doors are its least problematic feature. There have been a time when the doors acted completely haywire. Once it tried to close it opened back up again - until you violently slam it shut. However, the guard rails that the door travels along just needed a finger tip of grease and it hasn't acted up since. Doors open and close quicker too.

    Right now however, 1007s as a whole have a habit of worn intake/exhaust systems, currently ours is suffering from a dirty MAF or worse, a faulty O2 sensor or Cat. But that's just a result of negligence on top of harsh driving - of which I've no control or influence over. :/

    Oh yeah... weirdly for such a small car, it's actually quite worse at tucking in with "3 point turns" than my Gen 2. Narrower track width would limit the maximum turning angle upfront I suppose. But as it's the car I've learned to drive with, I have a big soft spot for it. If you find yourself cross-shopping a 1007 with a Fortwo and an iQ, I would recommend the former - treat it nice and it could be a very sought after, rare modern classic like the Gen 1s.

    Just avoid the dual-clutch semi-auto.
     
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