Prius Plug - in 2011

Don't change the subject.

those don't directly affect the argument between BEV/PHEV adpotion and driving gas only powered vehicles/hybrids. You seem highly opposed to the conversion of vehicles to BEV, even though that is the eventual future, after most if not all cars have a hybrid component to them in the next few years.

Darrell has given you 5 pages of reasons of why "EV"s are perfectly viable, the author of that document has been driving EV's for years, and he isn't particulary wealthy, he's just doing what he can.

FYI, that was written by "Darell": Darell's Electric Vehicle Page

 

can't agree that electric vehicles are the future. maybe, maybe not. something else may come along to obsolete electricity. happens all the time in technology. and, furthermore, electricity is only slightly better than gasoline. something else will have to replace it or we'll wind up right back where we started. unless we can develop enough solar/wind/hydro but i'm not convinced of that.

 

Sure thing bisco, but until "Mr Fusion" makes it's appearance, I am betting on electric vehicles

We can generate electricty/power cleaner, we need the RESOLVE and WILL to do it, we are the country that sent a man to the moon in the 60's, we are capable of anything we put our collective energy into.

 

"Mr. Fusion" will not be making any appearances. Of that I am certain.

 

Alex, I'll take "get a sense of humor for $1,000"

 

Apparently so. Epic fail for Toyota, good news for their competition.

 

You are using reason to counter emotional arguments.

Good luck

Common sense *should* tell us that *EVs are appliances, and cannot by themselves dictate the source of the electricity production. Our collective focus and will should be on energy conservation, clean energy growth, and taxes on dirty fuel. The market will supply the appliances, I am quite confident.

In terms of GHG, the difference between home PV +EV, vs home PV + HV, is equal GHG benefit but more money in my pocket for other green pursuits if I keep my HV. That is a bitter pill to swallow for EV enthusiasts. That said, I am happy to acknowledge that EV has other benefits besides GHG compared to HV that for some are worth the cost difference.

 

no worries. you can always buy a "PICC" Conversion kit, with the "Ewert Brothers" software, and convert your existing Prius to a 40-60 mile PHEV (for $13.5K estimated)...

WWW.EVWORLD.COM : California Company Develops 40-Mile Plug-in Prius

http://www.pluginconversions.com/picc_pressrelease61009.html

Ewert Energy Systems

P.S. There isa already another threrad on this topic, this is just an FYI for those of you who are very impatient

 

too little...too late

A fact that the 2011 PHEV Prius is sporting a much smaller battery than several of the aftermarket conversions...

If you are either impatient with the release of the factory version or wish a more powerful version, convert now!

Scott
Scott's Plug-in Pruis Blog | Converting my 2009 Pruis into a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle (PHEV)

 

Re: too little...too late

I looked for your blog...got this:

The page cannot be displayed



My cockpit error or broken link?????

 

:cheer2:

10.000 volts?

 

Tentative production date: 1/30/12 , so here by late Winter / early Spring....ish, we all know how that can go

Maybe they surprise us with an Spring 2011 intro.......not.

 

That'd be a good trick, for us PV owners ... to be making your own electricity, then have big brother turn around and CHARGE you for the very power that you made.

 

Re: Prius Plug - in 2011 - Heat?

Does anyone know how cabin heat will be produced for winter driving if the ICE is not on? If the heat is electric, how will this affect the available mileage form the battery alone?
thanks.