Prius PHV Plug-In Updates?

Reminds me of clean air act and other attempts to fool the gullible. Fan of Frank Luntz, I guess.

 

What does coining a phrase like "Cordless Prius" has anything to do with gullible believed in Clean Air Act? Is this an analogy?

What?

 

They probably aren't confused, they are just looking at you funny Cordless, at least in american english, means having a rechargeable battery instead of being tethered to a socket. Think about common usage in cordless telephone and cordless phone. Since the prius's battery can't be charged from external electricity the term is redundant and non-descriptive.

It would be the same word manipulation as saying wingless dog. While its true your dog, using the term would not make the dog able to fly, or add any useful information versus other dogs. Try it, it may get you the same looks. Now build some wings and affix them to your dog, and you may get even different looks, especially if you start a web site about winged dogs.

I don't think it really fools anyone. Its more like the terms "faux news" or "obama care". Its just makes some people feel clever in their arguments against plug-ins.

 

The term "cordless" clearly distinguishes the no-plug model as different from the plug-in model.

Argue semantics all you want, it won't change the reality that it is still an effective identifier. The computer industry is loaded with labels just like that, not quite fitting the original intent but very useful nonetheless.

Heck, even Volt has that. The term "EREV" was intended to identify an EV with an on-board recharger. Turns out, Volt is really a hybrid, so the definition no longer fits. It has morphed from a technology term to a brand label. So, it's still useful.
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Cordless Prius or regular Prius is only used here as far as I know as a way for some to differentiate it from the coming Plug in version.

BTW, Interesting analogy!

 

It doesn't work though, since there is never any dog flight.

Rechargeable batteries are indeed used. EV vehicles most definitely makes use of a cord, but never while driving. When you say cordless, the definition of not-having-a-plug immediately comes to mind... not when it's used.

Saying I'm pennyless doesn't mean I cannot make a purchase. It just means I don't have any pennies available.
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Yea, the wingless dog analogy was kind of odd!

I just watched that there is a new book coming out " Once upon a Car" with a lot of trash talk by car executives.

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Terms like collateral damage, that make what you are describing more clear? Effective? No.. Intent, I don't really know. I am talking about linguistics, how we use language. How someone uses terms often tells us something about the speaker, often where they are coming from.

I'm not quite sure what you are saying. An EREV is by definition a PHEV. There is only one factory phev right now. I don't think the volt will bee the only car with the label. It is bad language usage if you are saying that an EREV is not a PHEV,. I don't really like the term EREV either, but I don't see many fans of the term.

It seems to be used as a feature that garners an advantage. Since I have never seen confusion between a plug-in and conventional prius, I have not seen this usage. Is it common to confuse plug in or phv? Perhaps a clearer term is needed. A prius phv with inductive charging seems like the natural prius to be labeled "cordless", but isn't phv enough for identification.

 

There is nothing against the plugins with the term that differentiates the models with a cord to plugin and another without.

The term was developed in need of clearly representing the plug-assisted MPG vs cordless MPG. I am for the plugins as long as the design considers effiency, emission and cost.

 

I have a cordless mouse. If you don't count the tail.

I have a Logitech cordless mouse with rechargeable battery's. If you don't count the 2 cords, usb and power cube.

My ps2 mouse only has 1 cord.

So we will be able to use the JDM AC inverter to plug the charger into and never run out of EV range thus making the plugin truly cordless?

Working on converting a SVO VW-D guy to a Plugin Prius guy. Fryer oil containers to heavy for his back now.

 

I think you are right that if and when the inductive charging option becomes available on the Prius, charging without a cord will be a more appropriate use of the term, as in cordless charging.

 

All of the current and upcoming plugin cars have a cord to plug it into the public or home chargers. Until then, we should be good.

Cordless hybrid - A hybrid vehicle that generates it's own electricity without a cord or connection to charge from the external power source.

 

Again, the computer industry is loaded with very effective but not linguistically or functionally correct references.

Unless you come up with something better, the term will take hold.
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Mouse is a great example.
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Yahoo Drive Time Reviewer uses "Cordless Prius" at about 1 min 10 sec in the video!

 

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Just like in those cases, "cordless" prius is an attempt to pass off old technology as a positive - since cordless has a positive connotation in American English. Cordless is used for rechargeable stuff - not something that can't be charged.

Clearly an attempt to deceive the public.

 

, Well, I don't about the "Clearly an attempt to deceive the public" stuff.
1) A cordless appliance means you can actually use it while not attached to the wall.
2) A phone mat, inductive charging are cordless charging where as when it is attached to the wall is corded charging. A regular prius charges and recharges itself without a cord. It's not that difficult!

 

Cordless hybrid is the current mainstream technology. Putting it off as an old technology is the real attempt to deceive the public.

I do think plugins are the next step in electrification. I think we need to give credit where it is due. Cordless hybrids are saving the most gas consumption now.

It is one thing to promote the plugins but it another to brush off the current mainstream technology.

 

Cordless is simply being misapplied in this case, whether or not there's a subtle implication.

The difference between a BEV and a PHEV is that you must plug-in the BEV and it has a limited range.

The difference between an HEV and a PHEV is that you can recharge the PHEV while the HEV forces you to use consumables.

Therefore, I would suggest that in jocular terms:
- The Prius HEV is the "alkaline Prius"
- The Prius PHV will be the "rechargeable Prius"
- Any PHEV is "a cordless EV".

 

Are you referring to "Clean Diesel" and "eAssist" ?

What about 19th Century inventions, like EV and Fuel-Cell ?
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