Prius PHV Plug-In Updates?

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by cashcorn, Jun 8, 2011.

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  1. WE0H

    WE0H Senior Member

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    That's 'cause we are updating the new nickname for the latest Prii :p

    Mike
     
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    Since "Classic" has referred to the 2000-2003 model for many years now, that would be very confusing to expand it to now also include the "Original" 1998-2000 and "Iconic" 2004-2009 in addition to the 2010-2012.

    "Regular" hasn't been used yet.
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    I like John's "Regular", but I also like "Standard" to refer to the non-Plug-In.
     
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    PIP isn't bad: plug-in Prius
     
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    You might call it that, but both are liftbacks, yes ?
     
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    PIP & NOPIP

    Mike :)
     
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    Do you really want an answer to that? I mean if you don't like it don't use it... Of course they both are but one is a plug in, one is not so that's how they decided to call one from the other at the event.

    How about whoever wants to discuss what they feel the regular and plug in should be called start a thread about it and discuss it in there.
     
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    Nah, I was just needling you for the arrogant attitude. Toting the company line is not a good excuse.
     
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    I don't know how else to say it without touting the company line.

    I take asking me what you did when you know what I have already said as looking to nit pick with me over it. You know they both are so why ask?
     
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    It's Prius Plug-In, not Plug-In Prius and Plug-In is a single hyphenated word, so the proper abbreviation would be:
    PP & NoPP...
     
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    Names catch on if they are both comfortable to use and work in conversation. Paradox is right on to say that "if you like it, use it". If it doesn't work, consider changing it. That is how popular usage makes definitions. Toyota had a vote on the plural of Prius. That is no guarantee that this will be the popular choice, nor will our "vote" do that either.

    I feel all "updated" on this subject now to get back to the thread topic.
     
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    Acronyms just plain don't work. Only enthusiasts recognize them in type and they rarely work for anyone verbally.

    A unique word is best.
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    PIP makes sense, particularly when used in conjuction with the generation. I know John loves his "classic", "iconic", and whatever he's calling the 3rd gen, but the bottome line is that the only practical way to keep up as new generations are introduced is to use the generational names.

    Gen III
    Gen III Plug-in (or PIP)

    Now, what to do about the V and C....harder, is this a first gen V? Since the drive train is based exactly on the Gen III it makes it easier to just say Gen III v. But the c will likely have a different drive train...so would it be a Gen I c?

    Oye, this is confusing.
     
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    I would say since they're new models, they'd have their own generations.

    I'd also say avoid roman numerals completely in every situation, thanks to Toyota's V/v issue (which will work itself out eventually, but for now, it's really annoying).

    G3 Prius
    G3 PI Prius or PIP
    G1 v Wagon
    G1 c Hatchback?
     
    #534 StuffOnARock, Sep 22, 2011
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    The v is on the same platform, just bigger so it can be the same generation.

    The c would be a different matter since it'll likely have a different engine and platform. It's only the basic hybrid components that will be shared. But as long as it has the same cycle as the Prius it'd be OK to call it the same gen.
     
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    While the Advanced Plug-in gets a High-res 7" Nav screen, does anybody know whether the standard Nav screen in the base Plug-in will be the same as in the current 2011 Gen III.
     
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    No, the 6" screen in the base plug in is a new unit.
     
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    How about dropping the "Gen" designation altogether!

    Prius
    PIP

    Prius v
    PIP v

    Prius c
    PIP c

    (Plug-in Prius)
     
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    B/C it's key information when discussing the vehicle, particularly on forums like this one. If I start talking about the GPS function and how to operate it on my Prius how will you know what model I'm talking about? Ultimately, at some point, you need a simple way to categorize the cars. When I say Gen 2 (or II), immediately others who own or have owned a Gen 2 know what I'm talking about, while Gen 3 owners or Gen 1 owners won't be able to relate unless they have specific knowledge of the vehicle from other sources. if you have a Gen 3, my ability to assist you is pretty limited since I don't own one and have only driven a thousand miles or so in a Gen 3.

    You might argue that we could just put the model year, and that is fine, but it's easier to group in to fewer groups that more and it's easier to remember that the Gen 2s all had things in common while you might not be able to remember if an '04 is Gen 1 or Gen 2 or a '10 is a Gen 2 or Gen 3.
     
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    So what Gen mustang are they on? Seems like at some point just going to the model year makes a lot of sense (particularly when they are also using numbers for the trim level [ie a Gen II prius 3; imagine a Gen V prius v package 5]
     
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