Prius or 2025 Camry?

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  1. Gokhan

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    The 2020 and earlier-model-year Prius Primes had TSS-P (as in 1.0). My 2021 has TSS 2.0.

    Moderate as in typical freeway curves? TSS 3.0 also has adaptive curve-speed control, which TSS 2.0 didn’t; so, it is strange that it wouldn't handle the moderate curves well. I don’t think mine has any issue at typical curves a driver can do 65 mph at without much attention, but it wouldn't work at a sharper ramp or or any curve that is challenging for the driver as well.
     
  2. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    These were 45 mph curves. Highway 24 between Highway 29 & Highway 501.
    Google Maps
     
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    Ha ha, no, I wouldn’t call a 45-mph curve a moderate curve! That is a curve that would end you up off the road even if you blinked for a fraction of a second. I wouldn't trust TSS 2.0 or 3.0 at any curve with a yellow speed warning. 65-mph (or perhaps 55-mph) curves without a yellow speed warning are OK.

    How well does the adaptive curve-speed control work in TSS 3.0?
     
  4. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    If you're over 18 (or have a three digit IQ?)

    Camry.
    It's not even close.
     
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    It is quite subtle and I have not particularly noticed it. I turned off the proactive braking assist because it would brake too quickly for my linong when there was a car in front of me. i prefer braking gently to regenerate more power.
     
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    Unless you need a hatchback. Then it's not even close the other direction.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Excellent point!
    However (comma!) if you need a hatchback I would submit that there are others that are better at doing 'that.'

    If you HAVE to get EITHER a Camry or a G5 Prius?
    Yeah.
    The G5 has a hatch, and if you "need" one of those - the G5 Prius is a good (if expensive) option.


    Best,
     
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    In my case we decided we did NOT want a hatchback thi time. We have a 2000 Tundra pickup truck for the large stuff.
     
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    2025 Camry SE HEV emergency-handling maximum avoidance-maneuver maximum speed (CR): 53 mph
    2025 Prius XSE PHEV emergency-handling maximum avoidance-maneuver maximum speed (CR): 57 mph

    So, it is black and white: Camry HEV is a grandpa/grandma car in terms of handling in comparison to Prius PHEV.

    And Camry HEV has no plug.

    Prius PHEV is the clear winner here unless you are looking for a larger but slow-handling car and don’t care about BEV driving.
     
    #29 Gokhan, Dec 20, 2024 at 4:24 PM
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    Why pick the Camry SE? The XSE is supposed to have the best sporty handling. I like the ride comfort of my XLE though.
     
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    CR tested the SE.
     
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    To compare apples to apples, why didn't you compare the Prius to the Camry? That are both HEVs. You chose the PHEV so you could tout ist "advantage" of having plugin EV capability, something the Camry never claimed to have.
     
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    No, it would have been even more apples and oranges because CR tested Prius XLE AWD HEV. AWD changes the emergency-handling dynamics. It apparently made it worse, Prius XLE AWD HEV having scored 54 mph vs. Prius XSE PHEV having scored 57 mph.

    For me, I would not downgrade to an HEV anyway—either a PHEV or a BEV from this point on.
     
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    Prius Prime is 220 hp combined and 6.5 seconds 0 to 60 mph per Car and Driver versus

    Prius Hybrid is 194 hp combined and 7.1 seconds 0 to 60

    I couldn’t find info on the Prius AWD but probably a bit slower than the fwd.

    Camry Hybrid AWD is in a similar range at 6.8 seconds to 60 mph.