Prius Lawsuit

This is a very old quarrel. There were threads about it way back in 2004 IIRC. As folks above have noted, the EPA does the testing, and prohibits the auto makers from giving other FE information.

I bought my 2004 Prius in January of 2004 while living in Fargo, North Dakota. Twenty degrees below zero Fahrenheit and a short ten-minute commute to and from work. I got 29 mpg. EPA said 60 mpg. I was very upset. But a lawsuit??? Gimme a break! Shortly afterwards, I joined PC and learned about winter and short drives and the bladder.

I agree with the poster above (even if it is her/his first post here) who suggests that we offer to testify on Toyota's behalf. (Welcome to PriusChat, TeeCee.) Except that as others have suggested, it will never get to court.

Those EPA numbers are inflated, but it's not Toyota's fault, and they are averages. Driving conditions and styles differ. That's why it says YMMV on the sticker. Maybe I should sue Dave in OlyWA because he gets better mileage than I do. (NOT!)

 

We must have used the same cologne, but I had just the opposite problem. It was downright scary, especially when they whipped out the strap-on.

It was exciting, but left me emotionally scarred

 

Anybody else think the ambulance chasing lawyers are just getting really old?

 

Whew! I'm glad it is only the ambulance-chasing lawyers who are getting old. I was starting to think that little hitch in the giddy-up might just become permanent.

 

a lawsuit against the government?? because that is what it would be. considering Toyota amongst other car manufacturers lobbied the EPA to create a realistic test and that is why the EPA was changed from 55 to 47 MPG on the classics means that some lawyer is hoping to get enough idiots to speak FOR THEM in hopes of making them some money.

what they will do is drag it thru court hoping for a settlement, take their 30% AFTER expenses and spend the next two weeks in the Bahamas

 

Many years ago, back in the 70's I worked at a Ford Dealership. This was during the first energy crisis.
The EPA stickers were a bit unrealistic. Offering the consumer 17 MPG, when under the best circumstances a car could get no better than 15 mpg unless driven by a professional driver under "perfect" conditions.
As low man at the dealership, I got all the warranty whiners complaining their car does not get the advertised mileage. I was told to bring the car in, check under the hood, don't mess with anything, and tell them to try it again.
I did one day tell a customer who had brought his car back 4 times that there was no way in the world the car would bet that extra 2-3 MPG and get over it. He told me the salesman told him it would get the mileage advertised. I told him the salesman lied.................almost got me fired.

By the way, except under severe winter conditions, I consistantly get better than advertised with my 08 Prius.

A lawsuit like this happens every day, and what gives lawyers the deserved bad name.

 

Hang the lawyers and the horese they rode in on.

 

This will get thrown out of court.

 

ya know, i may have but it would have been discounted so quickly and deleted and frankly... something that takes up 15 seconds of my time simply would not have stayed in my memory for very long

 

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Man, I hope toyota doesn't sue me for getting above the EPA estimated mileage for a 2006 Prius. I would, however, be willing to testify as an "expert" for Toyota for a lease on one of the Plug In Prii coming out soon.



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actually, their web site is the only legal web site I've ever seen that has no firm resume, description, attorneys listing, etc. www.initiativelegal.com interesting. could be a scam.

 

Don't take it out on the horses. They are just victims of the lawyers too.

 

David,

I know neither you nor I practice in California, so perhaps this is a question for hill: Can a law firm do business under an assumed name or an organized entity that doesn't include the name of a partner in that firm who is licensed to practice law in the State of California?

Can't happen in my jurisdiction, so something like this makes me more than a little suspicious.

 

'Going to trial' is not usually on the minds of lawyers who pursue these kinds of complaints. They are called nuisance lawsuits, and are intended to pull some money out of the defendant to settle out of court, rather than pay their lawyers in court.

I suspect that Toyota will not go that route, because they know it will open the floodgates to a thousand more. I recommend these bottom feeding lawyers pursue Viagra instead.

 

My sticker clearly states 60mpg city & 51mpg highway. I don't have 100 miles of city driving on the odo. My lifetime average is 53mpg.

With all due respect, those complaining about inflated EPA numbers seem to either need to learn to drive more efficiently and/or configure the car properly. If your trips are only 5 minutes then it is unrealistic to expect any vehicle to hit its EPA rating.

 

I knew there had to be something in your past that made you bristle when I mentioned the freaky girl and a stick!