Prius is not the king anymore

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  1. retired4999

    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    Oh! I don't know, my best tank so far is 3940 miles in one tank. ;)
     
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    What was your electrical cost for the plug in ? that number is definitely impressive.

    So your burning coal or natural gas , mixed in with a little nuke ???
     
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    retired4999 Prius driver since 2005

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    For that tank I really don't know. 11 cents per kw about 2.8 kw per charge. I'm getting about 63% EV to 37 HV for 16,320 miles
     
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    So it's hard to say on average, how much you pay for charging in any given month.
     
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    I was not calculating anything but let's say you drive 10000 miles per year. That's around $755 in gas. In any other car doing 25 MPG the same amount of miles per year would be around $1400. That means you saved around $745 per year.

    Now, suppose you pay $27000 for your Prius in a loan at 0% in 72 months. That's $375 per month + $62 (755/12)= $437 per month. In another hand you paid $23000 for the second car, that's with the same 0% deal around $319 per month + $117 that's $436. So, financially driving a 25 MPG ($23000) car 10000 miles per year is as cheaper as driving a Prius.

    That's the way I see it. You pay a lot less per year for Honda Fit 38 MPG $18000.

    So a New Prius is anything but a cheap drive.
     
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    I charge every day at least once, sometimes twice, on a rare occasion three times. maybe an average of 40 charges a month but most charges are not full charges, usually 1-3 miles of EV left. Some guys keep track of every charge but I don't bother, I have the total kw used since new as recorded by car.

    Gas and electric combined I'm averaging 91.16 MPGe since new.
     
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    But you paid more than $30000 for your car ;)
     
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    True, better than $64,000 for the Mercedes.
     
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    True, but a lot worse than driving a Honda Fit if we are talking about saving money ;)
     
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    I see your point about the cost of owning a newer Prius to owning a Honda Fit.
    The only way someone can really feel good about buying a new Prius, if they pay cash for it.
    And still have a million left over in their bank account.
    I would say that is not is not the norm for most new Prius owners.
     
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    the bottom line is that the only difference between us Prius owners and those buying the MB in the article is the size of our Pockets ;) It isn't how much we save driving these cars.

    Exactly!
     
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    rate 1 USD = 0.8 Euros

    Here in Portugal a new Prius 3Gen is priced from...27k euros...[33750USD]
    And a new Prius PHEV starting at...38k euros... (no rebate here)...[47500USD]

    We pay gas averaging 1.5euros/liter [5.67USD per gal]

    By the way, E250bluetec here starts at 59k euros...[73750USD]

    Ouch, just for the fun!:X3:
     
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    So CT, what part of the US?
    There is rolling slight hill here in the piedmont of NC,seems ideal for getting the best out of my Prius, as far as mpg.
     
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    Are you asking me? Hollywood, South Florida. Too flat here.
     
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    Yep, oh yea, flat country there for sure.
    So what would be the best deal for a person trying to be economical ?
    I still say a pre owned Prius that has been maintained.
    Or a Honda Fit, new or used. They may be too small for most people.
    The Honda hybrids seem to have short battery life.

    I think bottom line, the Prius has continued to go up in price , except for the Prius C.
    It may be too small for most people. So Honda may be smart in some ways, offering the Fit at a reasonable price. What does Toyota have new at a reasonable price?
     
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    Mercedes wins ..... Let's see

    Prius ..... City hwy ..... 51 48
    Mercedes City hwy. ..... 28 45

    Type of Fuel cost Mercedes 20 % more expensive .... And Mercedes Cost $ 30,000.00 more
    I hate it when a prius gets beat
     
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    They basically disclosed that the Mercedes won just because.
     
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    I would say on average it adds about 30-45 dollars a month to charge. Just a guess.
    And I forgot, we have hydro and some coal and a little wind.
     
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    A preowned Prius is a good option. But they are hard to find and expensive. The problem with used cars is that you don't pay on front but you could be paying later in repairs.
     
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    If the Prius is still classified as a economical car, then the MB is in another class, has always been. So as someone said before , we are truly comparing apples to oranges.
    But apparently some of the high end Prius don't seem to be economical anymore.
    The Prius in the comparison was a Prius 5, not for sure what the base price is, but must be up there, say compaired to a Prius C.
     
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