<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gerald @ Apr 19 2006, 09:06 PM) [snapback]242020[/snapback]</div> Welcome to PriusChat! Cruise control & EV Button can be mod it later, no big deal. Now BM is giving 5 yr/150k on battery, so much difference from my 1st yr free warranty on and 2nd yr 50%. Anyway, no problem for me for more than 3 yrs now, many others on this board already passed the 5th year. The battery is well protected by the control systems. Congrats on your new ride!
wow... but it's a grey market import right? not an official one by Toyota of Singapore? Vincent, you were getting what in your Classic... 4.0? Imagine what this new one would get. Also, $83,888 seems cheap... I thought a Corolla was $90,000 back in 1996 (1.3 XLi)and a Camry was around $120k? Just based on pure memory. What's the price in relation to the new Corolla and Camry?
Also, $83,888 seems cheap... I thought a Corolla was $90,000 back in 1996 (1.3 XLi)and a Camry was around $120k? Just based on pure memory. What's the price in relation to the new Corolla and Camry? The price on the invoice is $101k and, after the rebates, comes down to $83.9k. So it is rather good value compared to the Camry and Corolla. The Camry is now $90k for the 2 litre and $94.5k for the 2.4. The Corolla is $58.5k for the 1.6 and $67k for the 1.8. Both of them are now sourced from Toyota's Thailand factory. I had considered the HCH too, but the sales people I spoke to did not seem interested and gave out info only when pressed. The new Civic is a very nice drive too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Apr 20 2006, 03:39 AM) [snapback]242229[/snapback]</div> No, it is not the grey market import. Actually, the grey market already started delivering in Jan. The last I checked their selling price was then SGD 66k without COE. COE was around 10k at that time. It was also the entry level. Yes, I'm now averaging around 3.9 (MFD). When I first got my car, it was showing 6.0. His test ride already showing 4.8 and the car has not even break-in yet!
man, things have changed since I left lol. $50k for a Corolla? did the price drop or was I imagining? $10k for COE? I thought it was $30k for something like a 2.0 or 3.0 wow. 3.9.. on a 2003 Prius right? The old sedan version? Isn't that NHW-10?
The price did drop a lot recently. You can find the latest pricelist here. COE prices are always fluctuating according to supply & demand. The successful bids in Jan'06 even dropped to an all time low of $8K for Category A (<=1600cc)! I think the $30K you saw was sometime in 2002. It is the NHW11 (2000 ~ 2003), exterior looks quite the same as NHW10 though. NHW10 (1997 ~ 1999) only available in JDM.
Any of you guys using an Excel spreadsheet for fuel calculations? I could design one myself but it seems silly to reinvent the wheel if someone has one and is willing to share. I need to use metric calculations not MPG.
Yes, I use Excel spreadsheet. It is in metric and I also included the conversion to US MPG for comparison. Please feel free to use or modify it.
Current gas price before discount: 92_____SGD 1.802 (CAD 1.28) 95_____SGD 1.834 (CAD 1.30) 98_____SGD 1.917 (CAD 1.36) Diesel__SGD 1.370 (CAD 0.97)
Thanks, vincent1449p, that is just what I want. I presume I can just delete all your data without damaging the calculation formulae. I note that the data in black takes out the calculated data in blue. Here in Tasmania the price of petrol (gas) is AUD$1.35/L. It is a long time since I lived in Penang. Spent a total of 5 years there with many visits to Singas. Shopping in those days was very cheap. I am talking about the days of Tangs on Orchard Road. Last time we visited (1991) Tangs was gone.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vincent1449p @ Apr 27 2006, 12:41 AM) [snapback]245980[/snapback]</div> I do not know if you are aware that there are inconsistent formulae in column D rows 41, 51 and 53. I have not tried to work out what is going on at this stage. Thanks again for the Excel sheet.
Couldn't help myself. I have changed your spreadsheet to automatically enter the date. Put this formula in the date column row 6: =IF(OR((B6<>""),(E6<>""),(G6<>""),(I6<>""),(J6<>"")),TODAY(),"") Now if you type data in any of the columns B, E, G or J the todays date will appear in column A.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Orf @ Apr 28 2006, 12:21 PM) [snapback]246477[/snapback]</div> Yes, that's correct. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Orf @ Apr 28 2006, 12:34 PM) [snapback]246478[/snapback]</div> Yes, that is why I highlighted in Pink font and put some remarks in the cell. Those are basically not full refuel, so I have to use my own estimations to reflect the actual FC. If you have figured out an easier way to take care of this, pls let me know. TIA
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vincent1449p @ Apr 28 2006, 12:22 AM) [snapback]246493[/snapback]</div> I have not studied how you system works but am I to understand that that column expects details of a full fillup? If so why? Surely the spreadsheet should take any fuel added. The distance travelled will be less if less fuel is added keeping the overall calculations correct.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Orf @ Apr 28 2006, 01:39 PM) [snapback]246499[/snapback]</div> Your logic is correct if you calculate FC the other way. ie. fill up any amount of fuel, travel until empty tank then FC will be equal to amount of fuel put in earlier divided by the distance travelled. If the tank is not empty, then the calculations will be off for that tank. Of course, the overall calculations will be correct when the tank is empty the next time. The problem with this method is that you need to carry spare fuel in the car. Another more popular method is to use the top of tank as reference. You don't have to empty the tank, just fill up anytime but everytime you need to fill to the top. One workaround for partial fillup I 've seen from other owners is that they add their partial fillups to their next full fillup as a tankful.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Orf @ Apr 28 2006, 01:20 PM) [snapback]246491[/snapback]</div> Doesn't that make all the date always changes to the latest fillup date? Oh, one difference I forgot to mention is that you may need to modify column D. My Classic '03 has a 50 L tank as compared to 45 L on your 2006.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vincent1449p @ Apr 28 2006, 03:03 AM) [snapback]246536[/snapback]</div> No, previous dates entered after the formula is put in the spreadsheet will not change. However, your current dates would change. Therefore, in your spreadsheet select the first blank date row and put the formula in there. Change the row numbers in the formula to correspond with that row. Next drag the bottom right corner of the cell down to row 1000. This will replicate the formula in all those rows change row number as it goes. I suggest that if you are going to play around with the spreadsheet make a duplicate copy under another name and try the changes there first. I can see that I will have to study your spreadsheet very carefully. I cannot see why the FC has to be per tankful rather than per fillup. Does it get back to what the car actually calculates? If the car is calculating a certain thing then the spreadsheet would have to do likewise, but if not then calculating fillups would be a more sound practice.
I have not experienced what happens in the Prius when the tank is filled so I am somewhat groping in the dark - still got 1/3 tank of petrol to go (570 Km). What I think I need to enter in a spreadsheet is: 1. the date, 2. ODO reading, 3. Average Fuel Consumption from MFD, 4. fuel added, and 5. cost of fuel. What I then will calculate is: 1. Km travelled since last fuelling, 2. Total fuel used, 3. Total fuel consumption rate, 4. Total cost of fuel. These entries and calculations will determine what columns I need but not necessarily the order of columns. As vincent1449p has done, I will also determine fuel consumption in MPG, distance travelled in miles and gallons used. According to my Owner's Manual the average fuel consumption figure on the MFD is automatically reset if more than 10 L of fuel is added. Therefore, the overall FC figure will have to be calculated from the ODO and total fuel figures. There are so many driving variables that I am not sure that trying to link temperature to fuel consumption is practical. I will give this option more consideration. Although I normally look at refuelling when the fuel gauge drops below 1/4 full and I try to completely fill the tank, my method of not using a tank full of petrol as the yardstick frees up any restrictions on refuelling. For instance, if I take a long trip I like to top up before leaving home. If anyone can see anything wrong with my method of recording or have suggestions on more I could do, please do not hesitate to pass on your wisdom.
