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Prius Cabin Airflow Filter Direction

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by rspiet, Jul 8, 2020.

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    Believe me, I´m having one of those days too....
     
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    in a shop vac, gravity is your friend
     
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    Or it's just because the heater is down low and the cowl intake is up high. If they wanted the airflow to be upward through the filter, they'd need to make room for some extra snaky ductwork.
     
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    To be sure gravity is our friend I thought better take another look at this friend....

    A Theory of Gravity July 21, 2021

    Three principals which are crucial to this theory:

    1) Charges all emit a non-photon beam: Like charges repel and opposite charges attract. For this a force carrying beam must leave each charge moving radially out at the speed of light. The electric field around a charge is a measurement of the beam’s intensity. The beam is electromagnetic in nature but it is almost purely wavelike and it does not consist of photons.

    2) Nucleons emit the beamas a pulsating beam: Quarks in nucleons move at close to the speed of light in a small ellipse. As a result of the high speed circling the beam they emit has a high intensity as a quark passes and low intensity behind the quark. These different intensity zones spiral out around the nucleon. At points around the nucleon the beam appears to pulse as intensity waves pass at regular intervals.

    3) Nucleons within a galaxy have a synchronous mutually reinforcing circling: The plane of circling in a galaxy corresponds to the plane of the ellipse of all nucleons in each galaxy. Only nucleons circling in the same plane attract. Intensity waves moving parallel to the plane of the galaxy mutually build and reinforce synchronous timing needed for attraction and building of waves in all directions. The time reinforcing waves cause extended electro static repulsion as they move in the same direction as quarks. This repulsion is on the surface of the nucleon in the direction the nucleon is spinning.

    Gravity works as follows: High intensity waves move past quarks as the quarks circle perpendicular to the waves. All quarks in a particular group of quarks throughout the galaxy will move in the identical manner relative to a passing wave front always building the same wave and always exhibiting the same magnetic force perpendicular to their motion. The wave builds after passing the quark causing a backward repulsion. The quark is circling near the speed of light locked together with two other quarks. The force pushes the quark perpendicular to its motion. This magnetic force pushing the quark to the center of the nucleon is pushback upon the nucleon in the direction the wave has come and from which for the nucleon is the attraction direction towards the other nucleons which built the wave.

    Since nucleons are completely in sync with these electromagnetic waves they are not thrown about by even extreme waves. The only evidence they exhibit of anything happening is the push back attraction, gravity. However, if we look at electrons which are much slower moving charges and hence they are not in sync with these waves we find that not only do the electrons show the presence of waves; till now have deduced that electrons are waves. By analyzing all aspects of electron waves we can determine the shape of gravitational waves. This in turn will allow us to establish the exact spacing of the quarks as they circle in their small ellipse.
     
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    with this information, we will be able to create an anti gravity device that allows more efficient trasportation.
     
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    Exactly..... I am glad we are all on the same page here.
    We just need some matter in which the quarks are not circling in the same plane as all matter in our galaxy.
    Toyota North America will probably not have this in stock but Toyota Japan seems able to find anything.
    We will need to replace some of the heavy components with identical material made from NAQM -- Non Aligned Quark Material
    Of course price will be a key issue. Can't be much more than standard car parts.

    Maybe someone knows a genius car mechanic -- an arc welder -- who could quickly produce some kind of charged particle ray to knock all the neutrons and protons in the car out of alignment with our galaxy.
    This will need to be done carefully we can't have parts of peoples cars breaking off and repelling into space..... Unless are you thinking what I am?...Yes a solution to all our garbage problems.

    Mendel are you there? Obviously this will take a real Prius wizard to decide which parts we can safely convert. Can I leave it to you find the genius car mechanic or am I overstepping a bit?
     
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    Wait a minute this could be as easy as butter. Are you there ChapmanF? Do you have a nucleon alignment convertor ray tool handy?
     
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    If you have any old filter the air goes in the dirty side first. If you are replacing one that has no dirty side it is still good. However you will need to look for holder marks to see which way it went.
     
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    Alas, not always so simple, for us non tech diy... . the picture by op posted for the 2016 has ribs going side to side.

    The 05 manual has it front to back....
    and thanks Chapman, who clarified... manufactures some times put arrow for flow, others for direction......

    oiy!
     

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    ps...

    anyone wash the filter in between changes?
     
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    I can't help noticing that the item highlighted in green has been identified as the "clean air filter".

    This is perplexing, because of course clean air does not need to be filtered.

    "Hot water heater" is the same way.
     
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    if i'm keeping it, i just tap out the debris and replace.

    if i'm putting in a new one, no washing necessarry
     
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    Oh yes. I keep a couple 2-3 in rotation. Even in bone dry Arizona it takes a couple days for the felt block edges to dry. The actual element dries in about an hour. I use a little spritz of Formula 409 to loosen any non water solubles and a small paintbrush to carefully agitate between the pleats. I can usually get 4 cycles before the element pore size gets too big. Not quite false economy with a unit price around $20.