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Prius c Concept

Discussion in 'Prius c Main Forum' started by Skoorbmax, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. Tideland Prius

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    Interesting... same engine but revised and updated. Cheaper than developing a new engine I suppose and it's been a fairly good engine.
     
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    Some more specs just released from Toyota in Singapore, refer source Toyota Prius C eyeing top hatchback spot

    0-100kmh (62mph) in 10.7s, est. mileage is 27km per litre of fuel, whereas the regular Prius is rated at 25.6km per litre.
     
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    How is the test cycle in Singapore?
     
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    I assume it's similar to the Europeans since the regular Prius' mileage number is the same.

    GT-I9100T ?
     
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    Thanks for the link, SmogSlide. We see the curb weight now: 2500lbs. This is about what I expected.
     
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    We are still unsure whether that is a fully loaded c... But it's fairly safe to assume that would be because the Singaporeans have to pay over $110 grand for the car.

    Disappointing mileage number though. But at least it's the same mileage as those small euro diesels.

    GT-I9100T ?
     
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    mmm i hoped for a 30+/35 ( km per liter ) car
    so in real life that would be ~30km pr liter.
     
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    Somewhat disappointing, 27km/l is only about 5% more efficient than 2011 Prius (on the same testing), so if that 5% gain translates directly it sounds like 52.5 "EPA-ish" MPG.
     
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    It sounds like it at first "glance" but when you consider they went back to a smaller engine and slightly less battery capacity then it makes sense. The car was not designed to trump the standard GenIII Prius in a significant way. It was designed to target a different market segment which includes urban drivers who want a car with the best mpg, more urban friendly size and is under $20,000. I'm sure Toyota could have designed the car to be more fuel efficient but keeping it under $20,000 and small in size would have been a very tall order. Besides, there are no competitors that even come close to the Prius c city mpg.... Yet.
     
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    Can be "same" mileage, but real life tend to squeeze compact/small compacts around city traffic, where only Smarts diesel (2 seat) (can?) do better.
    "Same" mileage with different fuels should not be compared in technical terms. For the "same" mileage, petrol has spent 11% less energy per mile.
     
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    Yep, totally agreed. But the general public aren't smart enough to work that out side ford and vw have been spreading propaganda about their smaller diesels are more fuel efficient than the regular Prius. With the c, at least they can't claim that title... "Australia's most fuel efficient car"

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    83.3 mpg. Finally something that beats my 00 Insight. It's about time.
     
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    I'm expecting it to get around 52mpg combined on the us test, just short of your old insight. It will definitely get better city mileage, but worse highway. Toyota could surprise us though as they have not released us figures yet.
     
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    Using the JC-08 test cycle, the Prius 'C' gets 18% more distance/fuel-unit than the G2 Prius, and about 10% more than the G3 Prius.

    I still am cautiously optimistic the car will be a fuel economy stand-out in city and below 65 mph driving.
     
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    That is a bit of apples to oranges sour grapes. :p
     
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    I just don't know why it took 12 years to design another high mpg hybrid subcompact for road warriors like 2 fas for u.
     
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    Because the Insight I was a niche car, while the 'C' is a general purpose car.
    I'll also hazard a guess that Honda sold the Insight below its marginal cost to produce, which will not be true of the 'C.'

    Disclaimer: I love the Insight I. I just do not see the utility in comparing it to a 'C.'
     
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    You must also remember the extremely good aerodynamics of the Insight, coupled with a small frontal area made it very sleek and thus good on highway. It had shortcoming compared to other cars, but fitted its own niche perfectly.

    The c will take on the competition on all fronts, so I have hopes, although it's falling a bit short of the 30km/l+ of the similar sized BlueMotion Polo. (combined Euro number)
    Let's hope the city figures will be much better than the diesels.