Prius Battery Replacement (GenII) Like you've never seen - NEW Cylindrical Cells

I did NOT say you were a scammer.
I DID say that the nature of your post.....the tone and format......looked a lot like what some scammers do.

I quit. Good luck.
Just try to be careful that YOU don't get scammed.
Some VERY smart people get sucked in occasionally.

 

You make a compelling math argument, but what happens if your experiment fails (and we have sold our original cells for $800ish)? The owner will have to buy a new $2100 pack AND pay the $1350 core charge. $3450 + tax = $3800 - $800. Add the $2000 for your failed unit and the net total would be a whopping $5000 !!!

 

like any new product, it's buyer beware. not that difficult a concept.

 

Alas, the risk/reward ratio fundamentally flawed .

 

agreed, that's for each individual to decide. the free market has a way of sorting these things out.

 

We are basically talking a beta test of a proposed substitute battery, developed by a fellow American enthusiast.

Similar to the early stages of Re-Involt (Taylor was working on a beta test Lithium Prius replacement when Dorman took them over) and Boulder Hybrid Conversions which does plug-in conversions of Prii, based on generous Colorado incentives for such conversions. Maybe there should be new tax credit for saving a dead Prius with a new batt.

Keep in mind, Toyota often times does give Prii owners a 50% or higher discount on the new batts, as referenced above "goodwill" batts. But sometimes they don't, and you could be easily stuck with $4000 bill. Sometimes there is not time to wait to negotiate with Toyota, or self-repair the modules, you need to get your car back on the road. The refurb batts are becoming very unreliable and many owners spending a lot of time fiddling with multiple replacements of replacement batts.

Where is @SageBush when we need him? but he strongly felt that replacement with a new Toyota batt was the most logical solution, given current refurb options. At the moment we have no alternative to that recommendation.

 

And in if you want to install a new pack yourself, some locations dealers simply REFUSE to sell a new battery to customers.

I just ran into this last week.

I basically ended up begging at 2 different dealers. No dice.

Ended up going to another dealer an hour away, but ended up having to go through an unbelievable amount of vetting before they would do it. Had to get the manager involved as well as my credit card company. Probably an additional 2 hours of my time... Before I even started wrenching!

 

What are the circumstances you were refused?

 

Happens when I do mobile service or something like that out of my normal service area.

They don't have any local independent hybrid mechanics. So when I roll up asking to buy a hybrid pack they are dumbfounded.

This time I was told they had sold one once and got burned. I directed them to my website, my facebook page, my google reviews, and yelp. Didn't matter. They turned down a several thousand dollar sale. Whatever. I move on and call the next dealer.

 

i wonder how you get burned selling a battery. with dealers, it's usually the other way around.

 

always.

 

Seriously, you need to go on one of those TV shows that allow you to promote your concept for financial backing.

 

DAMNED COOL!!!!!

In fact, because of the packaging, I would bet that if these are of similar build quality (even a little lower) they will outlast the OEM packs; simply because there is more room for airflow = better cooling. Just a guess, but tightly packaging stuff does not ever lead to "cooler" stuff.

 

I can see there point. Dealer does not know your skill level does not know you and there is a chance you bring back the pack you just bought all blown up. Lots of paperwork.

So your service is to install a new Toyota pack in a customers car and then you bring there old pack back for credit. What do they do credit your cc?

What is the benefit to the customer having you do this versus the dealer turnkey install with full warranty? I think the dealer charges $500 labor for the install plus cost of pack.

 

There are a GREAT number of dealers who hide from Hybrid repairs or simply provide outrageous estimates for same, in order to avoid them. These are very reliable vehicles with a knowledgeable owner base, something not ever dealer wants to work with.

 

This is getting out of control. People....buy it if you want to try it. Don't buy it if you don't want to try it.
Or... just keep your eyes open for the pack out of a wrecked Gen 3 and buy it for about 500-1000 bucks, depending on how lucky you are that day. There's plenty of websites and salvage yards and craigslist to check out. Geezzzzzzzzzzzz.
I get gen 3 packs all the time when i need them. It's not that hard!!!

 

So a great many dealers will not install a brand new battery pack?