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Prius 101 for the Physics Syncophant

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by EricGo, Feb 13, 2006.

  1. Betelgeuse

    Betelgeuse Active Member

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    Actually, that's one of three definitions for mass. See this excellent Wikipedia entry for the other two. I would argue that "Passive Gravitational Mass" is more relevant in the current discussion.
     
  2. Kiloran

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    Good link.
    However, since the OP was trying to calculate power (Kilowatts), only the "inertial mass" is relevant as the physical equations cited use it:
    Power = Force (Weight: Inertial mass * gravitational constant) * Velocity (Rate of ascent)
     
  3. EricGo

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    Back to the OP (that I will update with Kiloran's corrections shortly), I still come up with numbers that seem to allow 20 m/s at 7% incline within the ICe's efficient zone:

    20 kW (incline) + 6 kW (air resistance, car mechanics) = ~ 26 kW power demand.

    I'll have to go out and make a couple of quantitative runs.
     
  4. Kiloran

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    Make sure you compare your hill climbs to level runs at the same speeds.

    Note:
    1kW = 1.341hp, 26kW = 34.9hp
    The ICE has 76hp @ 5000 rpm (57 kW @ 5000 rpm) so you're looking at about an additional half the capacity of your ICE to ascend at 1 foot per second over the power required for a level run.

    Edit: P.S. Dont forget to add 60kg (your body) plus the weight of any cargo into your calculations.
     
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    If the guy standing on the street with his kilogram is suddenly
    the guy in the space capsule, weightless, he can still guesstimate
    that he's holding a kilogram by trying to wave it back and forth.
    He can still feel the force needed to accelerate and decelerate it.
    So it's still a kilogram even though it doesn't weigh anything.
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    The real challenge is to put it down on the frictionless surface
    and then walk away!
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    _H*