Thank you. I had to bookmark page 15 of this thread since that was where I found your post on the link. Glad you added to your signature block.
Just back earlier today (oops, yesterday at this point) from a 600 mile roundtrip to Maguire Toyota in Ithaca, NY to purchase two (2) spankin' new PiPs. I had posted much earlier in this thread when my Dad and I were looking to buy closer to home at Passport Toyota in Suitland, MD. We were getting a really good deal at Passport and were ready to pull the trigger there when someone on this forum posted the weekly Maguire sales flyer advertising the Base PiP for $24,999.00. Made the call early in the week and discovered they only had four remaining at that price, so everything came together quickly. Left West Virginny early Thursday morning and were sitting in the Maguire showroom at 3:00pm that afternoon. Could not be more pleased with the Maguire experience. Our Sales Consultant, Rue Chagoll was top-notch and a pleasure to work with. All-around A+ experience. After spending the night in Scranton, PA, we crossed the Potomac back into the Mountain State mid-Friday afternoon, having averaged 53+ MPG on the drive down I-81. Charged 'er up in the garage upon arriving home and three hours later the family and I enjoyed our first trip around town in EV mode... 12.2 miles total Still pinching myself over what we drove them home for... $32,000.00 MSRP +$ 225.00 Options +$ 795.00 Delivery/Processing =$33.020.00 Total Sticker Price -$ 4,021.10 Maguire Discount ($28,998.90 resulting taxable "sales price") +$ 87.50 NY State Transit Fee =$29,086.40 Total Price of the Vehicle -$ 4,000.00 Toyota Financial Services "Rebate" =$25,086.40 (what I really "paid" for the car BEFORE any tax credits) -$ 2,500.00 Federal Tax Credit for 2012 -$ 7,500.00 West Virginia State Tax Credit (can be carried over to successive years) (WV Tax Credit verified w/ two in-state accountants, one who got it for his Volt) =$15,086.40 (what I'm pinching myself over ) Financed 'er with Toyota's money for the next five years (0% APR for 60 months). The wife and I are driving our new PiP to Morgantown to watch our beloved Mountaineers here in a few hours. Beat Kansas and it'll pretty much put an exclamation point on what has been a VERY good week. "Take Me Home Country Roads..." My Winter Gray PiP My Dad's Classic Silver PiP
Nice! Congratulations! That is an amazing price (a record, in fact) on the car even before any of the government incentives. With those factored in, it's an absolute steal.
Glad I was able to save someone some cash for their PiP. Would appreciate if you give back to the PiP community in the future by posting some of your know-hows and insights. Perhaps steak dinner too ?
Great story and buy. Maybe we need to start a new thread entitled "How to get back into the good graces of your local dealer after he realizes he lost your sale!" I have a real good sales person at the local dealer who is expecting to sell me a 2013 PIP when we get them in WI. I know he will take it personally when I dive up in my new BP PIP purchased in NY.
Hellos Everyone! About to make the plunge here in rainy California. Valencia, Toyota. PiP Advanced. MSRP: 39,525 Special Color: 220 Lower Door Molding: 219 Carpet Floor mats & Trunk Mat: 225 Rear Bumper Applique: 69 Illuminated Door Sill: 279 Destination: 760 TOTAL: 41,297.00 Plus the Gratuitous "Custom Tint" for 399. DEALER'S ASKING PRICE: 41696.00 After using the Toyota Finance Incentive of $1,500 Dealer selling Price is $37,496 plus ttl. They are expecting me at 3:00 don't know if its a good deal or not! HELP!
Have you called Miller Toyota in Culver City? Tell them you see some good dealer discounts in the paper and what discount you can get on an advanced PiP. It looks like you are getting a pretty good dealer discount over $2,000 already though.
They don't call it West "By God" Virginia for nothing! But I repeat myself. I got Mountaineer's in the family but I could not get them interested in this deal. This deal is solid contestant for the lowest price after discounts, but we have a least 2 other West Viginians who made similar deals - I don't think quite as stellar but we don't have the details.
Ha! I had decided about the PIP in June. They aren't available in Wisconsin so I told my salesman to let me know when he gets the 2013 and I will probably get one. Of course he's is excited. Then Nov. 1 comes around and the hot deals on the east coast so I take the trip and buy one. No longer interested in the 2013 of course. He will not be happy.
This is a decent deal for someone buying locally. However, you can do much better if you go out of state.
EngravEER, and anyone else with Winter Grey, I had a pinstriper add two thin, hand-painted stripes running along each side, about an inch above the ridge in the body starting just under the headlight assembly. He mixed a dark red to my liking, and it seems to set the car off nicely.
so if you look at what Henry ended up paying, including shipping, it was $27,816. That's only about $500 savings, though still a savings. But the problem, as he pointed out, is that I'm not sure how you managed to pull off this deal. You have managed to get the cheapest PiP in CA by over $1k! See the spreadsheet for yourself.
Indeed a great price - about a full $1,000 lower than prior lowest feasible prices in SoCal. Dealer really ate it on this car, not sure why they would do that. Could be they made a mistake, were trying to hit a sales number for the month...definitely not easy to replicate this price.
My friends ask me that every time I get a car. Having a very high credit score and always shopping for a new car before you really need it are what I credit with my negotiating successes. Good salesmen know when you really don't need the deal and are ready to just leave at any time. The last deal I got was an Accord and Civic lease for $400 per month combined. Before that I had a Camry that I negotiated down below $20,000.
Thats cool. I knew one person, who was a very good negotiator. Friends used to take him for big ticket items where negotiations were involved. There was a good segment in NPR Planet Money or Market Place, where it was explained in simple terms the origin of negotiations, pricing and how coupons were introduced where negotiations are not possible. What it really alluded to was that the coupons are always targeted towards those who are not willing to buy the item but will buy it because it is at the right price. In negotiations, one can sense those things but in fixed price markets it is not possible, so they introduce the coupons. As you rightly alluded, it is an art and your ability to pull the trigger when you want is key. But in reality though unless you are a good planner, your needs kind of put you in a position to pay little higher or not wait around. In some sense value of time is different for different people and also greatly vary in different situations for same person.
