Power Mode gas mileage?

I only drive in power mode - I can't stand the wimpyness of any other mode. I drive the Prius exactly the same as I drive the Camry, which is with a pretty heavy foot. I average 49.9mpg.

 

I understand what you mean, but I think not every potential Prius owner understand what you mean. When they test drive the Prius and found out the pedal response not to their liking, they just walk away thinking it's a crappy car.

Also, not all Prius drivers join and read our discussions. They most probably use the ECO mode thinking that's the best way to get best FE from the Prius. You must agree that the paddle response of the ECO mode (and even the standard mode to a certain extend) does induce whimpy driving habbits for the average un-informed 1st time Prius drivers.

If you doubt about my fear of "intense hate" from other drivers, just Google "I hate Prius" and you'll get 507,000 hits. They all think we are arogant hypocrites who has a private jet and drives a Prius just to show them off. I just wish all Priuses drive "normally" like any other car on the road so less people are pissed off by us.

 

If you drive normally like other cars, you wouldn't get 600miles per tank. You'd also have to repair damage sooner caused by deteriorating roads, pay higher insurance premiums, have lots of speeding tickets etc.

I use ECO mode all the type no matter the terrain. PWR is for idiots who BLAST their accelerator as soon as the light turns green and THEY MUST at all costs exceed 50mph in the next 10 seconds. These people have higher insurance rates, usually have lots of debt, are very stupid etc.

If you want to use a PWR, trade your Prius for a similar priced Jetta and blast the pedal all you want and get the same 300mpg you got with your Prius and keep paying $200 in gas every month.

 

Now ,now, this is totally uncalled for. It's been widely acknowledged that the difference of PWR mode and ECO mode is mainly the gas paddle response. Using the PWR mode does NOT automatically incur high fuel consumption. Driving the car "normally" does not neccessary "BLAST" the accelerator to the max. Search this forum and you'll find people saying they have low FE even using ECO mode, and quite a few getting great FE using PWR mode. I myself is getting 57 mpg, appr. 600 miles/tank, all in PWR mode, keeping the flow of the traffic without lagging behind and blocking a lot of angry drivers.
It's people like you that have this I/they mentality who think that "I'm always right and they're always wrong", that makes other "normal" car drivers hate us Prius drivers.

Please, be considerate to others. After all, you don't own the road you're driving on. You share it with all other "normal" drivers. And if your driving habits piss off most other drivers and make them shy away from buying hybrids, what good is it for the mother earth that you, and you alone is having good FE with your precious Prius?

 

I think most potential buyers will be aware of the Power button and are very likely to try it if they are unhappy with throttle response. You really need to get over this "intense hatred" of Prius drivers. Your posts are coming across as psychologically unstable. lol

I think you are going a bit overboard with your response and you apparent crusade to vilify the Eco mode and those who use it or drive more conservatively than you do. MWOK86 never said anything about slowing other drivers down or becoming a road hazard to induce road rage so why are you railing on him? I completely disagree with his assessment but you are accusing him of something he never said.

 

Wait a minute, if I don't own the road but I have to move everytime some idiot tailgates me....doesn't it mean THEY OWN THE ROAD?

 

Dear mwok86,

My apologies for being one of the millions of "tailgaters" who invades your kingdom of the road. Obviously we are all wrong and you are always right. Allow me to beg for your forgiveness on behalf of all mankind. I'm sure mother earth would spare you when her wrath of anger destroys the rest of us because we engage in silly selfish arguments and do not care for her. May you enjoy the rest of the whole world when we're all gone.

Good bye!

 

Why is it they hate only my Prius, and not my previous cars driven in a similar manner?

 

They all hate (ok, hate maybe too strong, better use "are frustrated of") all drivers whose driving manners are inconsiderate of other cars. It's just that they can't use a common name for them because those cars could be of all different brands. When they see most Priuses are driven that way, they can now pin the term "I hate Prius drivers".

Yes, some of them may be a little jealous of us because they can't afford a hybrid while deep down they actually desire one. Some of them are really idiots who hate everybody else who doesn't drive muscle cars (correction, they probably hate those more whose car has more muscle than theirs). Most of them are just ordinary folks who react normally when someone else is inconsiderate. Would you be frustrated if you are waiting at a long line-up at the cashier when one customer taking her time counting and re-counting her coins? I think we do have to be considerate regardless of what reason they "hate" us. It's just common courtesy!

 

Are you ok?

 

I am ok, thanks for your concern. I'm a little "frustrated" being called an idiot and "phycologically unstable", and some people rather argue on silly selfish viewpoints than really be reasonable. Other than that, I'm good!

I've spent enough time in this thread. Good bye and god bless, everyone.

 

Maybe try being less aggressive in your posts. Especially while being so new to the forum. Once everyone gets to know you and your writing style, the "mean" replies will lessen. Usually.

 

Then PWR modes is also redundant, because you should also get the same from Normal mode.

It sounds as if your local driving culture is fairly aggressive. While this is common across North America, it is not at all universal.

 

Regardless of the local driving culture, I believe not getting in the way of others is a common courtesy, very similar to keeping the door open and not slamming it in their face to the ones behind you going into a mall.

I'd argue that the ECO mode and the standard mode are both redundant. Why limit a car to it's lower abilities while the PWR mode gives you all of the above. You can tap the gas peddle to different degrees of lightness to similate the other 2 modes, you CANNOT achieve the same PWR mode response from the car while in ECO mode, and a lot more effort in standard mode.

Some members suggested that you can FLOOR the gas paddle in ECO to do that. I believe this is a very dangerous habbit, especially for those who own multiple cars like myself. What happens if you're so used to FLOORING the gas paddle but you forgot you're driving your son's car this morning. Getting used to tapping the gas paddle gingerly in the Prius does not cause you any trouble in driving any other (like rental) cars.

The standard mode is the mode that all potential Prius buyers experience while test driving. You must agree that first impression of the test drive ranks very high in one's purchase decisions. If I'm surprised by the good (some argues that it's only perceptive, but nevertheless, it is GOOD) performance of the Prius which defaults to (better still, only has) PWR mode, I'd rank the Prius as one of the top prospects in my buying decision.

Now don't get me wrong. I don't work for Toyota. I don't even like Toyota before, due to the fact that they supplied the Japanese army during the WWII, but I'm over it now that it's been more than half a century passed. What I mean is that it is better for the world to have a couple of more drivers buying Priuses having JUST 50+mpg, than a few existing Prius owners who increase their Prius's mpg from 55 to 60 in ECO mode while presenting to the rest of the world that the Prius is a wimpy car.

I apologise to those members who think that my postings are too aggressive. But I did NOT call anybody "ECO maniacs", did I?

 

As best we can tell in the U.S., the car will not achieve the benchmark 50 MPG EPA result in PWR mode. They were tuning up to the last minute to not land a tiny fraction of an mpg short, and having to put a 49 MPG label.

Disagreed.

I also still own multiple cars. There was already a wide difference in pedal response in this household's cars before acquiring a Prius. My right foot reflex adjusted quickly.

 

I don't get the problem either. I have no problems going back and forth between my Prius and my late model Corvette. The difference between ECO and PWR is approximately nothing compared to that.

 

I must agree. I've been taking a lot of short trips lately and it is absolutely crushing my MPG.

 

Yes, driving in the PWR mode without using any hypermiling techniques will not yield 50+ mpg. I average 57mpg by using EV/PP/CC/NG, that is:

1. EV - set the prius to EV whenever it's stopped, so that the next startup from stand still will use battery power only. Although it will be for a very short few seconds, it still save a lot of gas.
2. PP - power pulse, accelerate to your desired (most of the time, this is the speed of the flow of traffic) speed ASAP.
3. CC - set it to cruise control, even though it may be just a short distance to the next light. The CC chooses the highest gear ratio possible not easily managable by your foot on the padel.
4. NG - make sure the ICE is stopped after you release the gas paddle, then put the Prius to neutral (push the gear knob towards yourself for a couple of seconds) and glide just 1/2 to 1/3 (depending on the speed, traffic conditions and road gradient) mile before the next stoppage.

I even think that Toyota should reconfigure the Prius to do all these EV/PP/CC/NG automatically. At lease let the driver configure it to use these as defaults. Just imagine a Prius being diven "normally" just like any other car, has good performance and still approaching 60 mpg without the driver having to "learn" all these hypermiling techniques! I'll be willing to pay another grand for that.

[/QUOTE]I also still own multiple cars. There was already a wide difference in pedal response in this household's cars before acquiring a Prius. My right foot reflex adjusted quickly.[/QUOTE]

Good for you, sir. But I don't have your good refexes and I suspect not all people have your good reflexes. Just one of them crashes the Prius because of this is not worth it, I think.

 

My average trip is between 15-30 miles.

 

That wouldn't hurt mileage in most situations except for very cold winter conditions where warmup cycles could take longer. My Commute is only 13miles one way and if were not for the 1,000ft. elevation gain I would still average 50-52mpg like I do during the weekends.