PIP Owners in Southern California Edison Areas

Thanks for that information! I'm surprised I didn't know about that before.

 

In PG&E land, I am on a single tiered TOU plan. May-Oct peak is from 2-9pm M-F; there is no peak the other half of the year. Midnight-7am M-F is off-peak, which is when I do most of my charging. Weekends are off-peak except for the middle rate from 5-9pm, so I will often charge then for weekend chores. However, they are discontinuing this rate plan for a non-tiered TOU plan. Their what-if web page computed my bill under the new plan, and my bill will be going up at least 50% under it. It really is designed for those with EVs with much bigger charging requirements than the PiP who end up with a lot of usage in the expensive third or fourth tier. I barely get into the third tier.

How do the SCE plans work out for PiP owners? Are the rate plans really designed for the high-usage owners, like the Leaf or Tesla?

 

I'm in Edison country as well. In my area, I actually pay ten dollars a month extra to keep my old crummy meter, instead of the new electronic meters. My fear is that all these new plans with smart meters are really a sucker ploy to eventually tax you for owning an EV. it may be in the form of a road tax etc. Remember that when making your comparative EV to gasoline equivalent comparisons. Gasoline here in CA has approx. 40 cents a gallon of tax added to it. You really don't think all these incentives and deals are free do you. I'm sure the $1500 I'll be getting back from the state will eventually be paid back with some sort of EV tax.

 

we have a leaf and based on us charging the pack ½ way, every other day (10kWh's) - 25 miles round trip - it still doesn't pencil out. Not at all. We had 3 contractors come out to bid the installation of the additional kWh meter socket. The median cost of a meter socket install is around $1k here in So Cal. You know - I'm not THAT old - but even so ... i'm never going to live long enough, based on the few pennies that SCE allows as a price break to ever even recope that kind of cash - much less if one factors in the present day value of money.
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Any new information on the updated Southern California Edison rate tables? I see on their website they list "This rate will be changing on or about January 1, 2015", but I have been unable to find what the new rates are.

 

Forget about the PUC.
Agitate for community solar farms

 

it takes decades to pencil out - even charging 20kWh's a day. Our SCE area requires us to eat the cost of a 2nd / dedicated charge meter. Average electrical contractor cost to bust out stucco/install meter socket; $1,100. Then we pay to stucco patch/paint the surrounding area. Good luck living long enough just to recover the $1,100. Then there's always the possibility the utility (as they HAVE done in some northern California utility / areas) will start charging a "small rental fee" for the privilege of your 2nd meter. Now you will never outlive the upfront costs. As for TOU metering we tried that. Trying to find (much less read) the plethora of dials/time-season codes / hourly rate indicators, reverse direction solar credit, ETC & then have absolutely NO ONE @ SCE be able to explain/understand them self, the dozens of digital combinations of readouts - we spent the next two months forcing SCE to return our old style / easy to read meter. Good ol' standard schedule let's us charge @ a so-so rate, and, understand meter readouts, as well as accrue/audit our PV credits. As a side note, I believe the antichrist will arise from our PUC or the SCE administration.

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We refused the updated metering and must pay a $10/month surcharge plus an initial $75 fee just to keep our original meter........ SCE at its best!