PHV vs PIP

In my youth, we used the word Oriental to refer to people, today only a rug is Oriental, people are Asian.

While politically correct, we lost a great deal of information. Oriental describes a much smaller area than Asia does.

PiP uniquely describes a single model of a single car by a single manufacturer. PHEV is a class of cars, which will eventually include multiple models from multiple manufacturers. It would take a long weekend to make a PiPv, and under 6 months to make a PiPc, both of which would be PHEVs by Toyota. (Ignoring the required inputs by Legal, Marketing and Emissions testing, which would add time equal to any new model)

So I will be using PiP to identify one model of PHEV.

 

No it isn't. I see PHEV used a lot more and frankly I prefer it. While the P makes the E is redundant, it retains the EV which makes it instantly recognizable.

We could write PPI or PPIH but PiP sticks because of brevity.

 

The term PiP only surfaced when the 2012 Plugin Prius became available and only refers to the Plugin Prius. NAH only refers to the Nissan Altima while HCH only refers to Honda Civic and TCH only refers to the Camry hybird. So, if you talking about a Plugin Prius, PiP would suffice. However, there are 2 kinds of Plugin Prius, OEM and none OEM. The converted Prius was never called PiP in the first place. They were always referred to as Prius PHEV back in the day. If you were to convert a 2012 Prius to a plugin with an aftermarket kit, you wouldn't call it a PiP would you?
I also prefer PHEV over PHV because first of all, Priuschat recongize PHEV but not PHV. Second, a Plugin Hybrid Electric Vehicle just sounds better because it sounds like a car that runs on electric only then hybrid later while Plugin Hybrid Vehicle just sounds like it's it runs in blended mode all the time. Third, PHV has no electric in it.

 

Should GM make a system that actually works, I expect them to retain that name.

 

They have one already, it's called "Voltac", as in the hybrid system in the Volt

 

Actually its Voltic.. not voltac

And it works very well indeed!

PHEV is more informative as it says the source of the Electric as upposed to say a FCEV or FCHV where FC= Fuel Cell.

 

One theory of why GM is trying not to use Hybrid to describe the Volt and voltic or voltac, is that they slathered "Hybrid" stickers over these products.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAS_Hybrid"]BAS Hybrid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

So they were afraid to condemn the Volt with the reputation of their previous "Hybrids". This year GM is calling this eAssist.

While this Hybrid was a failure commercially, at least it worked and was not recalled repeatedly.
Global Hybrid Cooperation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Big difference: those are brand names that became ubiquitous. In fact, it's bad for a company's brand name when it becomes a household term like Kleenex.

If PHEVs become commonplace, the buying public will settle on a name all on their own.

In the tablet market, none of the nicknames had really caught hold until the iPad came along. Now, it's the name you always hear when talking about tablets, because they've cornered the market, as they did with the iPod (another common household name).

Personally, I don't care for the monicker "PiP."

 

I'm sold; PHEV it is for me from now on.

 

Whenever my four year old sees a Prius, he shouts out, 'Prius!' That's successful branding right there. When he sees an Insight, he shouts out, 'Honda Prius!'

 

Tell them to use their words.

My wife and I do the color game. We see a Prius say "<Color> one!", where <Color> is the color of the Prius. "<Color> Insight!" when it's an Insight.

Yesterday, when we arrived at our destination city to have dinner, we had "Green one! Green one! Green one!" within a stretch of 5 cars.

 

My 2-cents:
PHEV: The sound of clearing my throat of phlegm in the morning.
HEV: I have a head cold and am clearing my throat. Also, a new class of vehicle that uses gasoline, supplemented by electricity via plugging in to a source.
EV: A class of vehicle that uses electricity.
PiP: The nickname for a particular (and particularly spectacular and fun) HEV.

It is, I agree, the Coke of colas; the Kleenex of tissue; the Rolls Royce of HEVs.

 

looks like 'pip' had the final say.

 

Holy thread necromancy!

I vote for "Prius DFHDaGPPISoEV"...

"Dual Fuel Hybrid Dino and Grid Powered Plug-In Sort Of Electric Vehicle"

 

sorry, was fishing for 2016 lead times. brought back some fond memories.

 

bisco, isn't this the second thread you "unearthed" today?

How about: Gladys Knight and the PIP's?

 

slow day in metro boston. it will probably get worse as winter approaches. gotta go grab some wine, in my pip of course.