Operation Volvo Seats in a prius

Well I humbly disagree. I remember him clearly asking in the original post that the subject of airbags not be discussed and that he would only cover installation of his seats. Thereafter many posts appeared discussing the implications of airbags in a seat swap. Seems that his request was totally ignored perhaps not even read.

It irks me a bit because I'd like to see the conversion. Being an old man with the typical skinny butt that some old men develop I have to use a cushion on long drives. :embarassed:

 

Hi Seamus,

Point of fact:

Your memory is OK, but you are remembering a modified initial post.

OP's unmodified initial post did not ask that airbags not be discussed. That request was added later in a modification after some people had posted comments/questions about the side airbags. In fact, OP's unmodified initial post expressly mentioned that the front seat airbags had not been deployed, with the implication being that that was a good thing as he would have working side airbags.

 

Yep, I was typing my post while you found that.

 

I sure hope I develop a skinny butt as I get older as I certainly don't have that problem at the moment.

 

people who spread misinformation need to be called out. end of story.

this guy is one of those who will not hear it if he does not want to, :lalala: and he's quite puerile to top it off. it's fine for someone to modify their seats however they want, but at least acknowledge the risks that may exist.

 

Exactly. And, if he felt it was hijacked, all he had to do was state how he was addressing or not addressing the issue as efusco suggested. To not address the issue of airbags at all is a disservice to all. He handled this thread in a very immature and childish fashion. Besides, it's a thread on a forum! My goodness, if you don't want to read something ... don't! In the whole scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal.

 

It is rather unfortunate that problemchild decided to throw a tantrum. I was kind of lurking to see how well the integration of the side impact air bags could be accomplished. One reason that I keep getting Volvos (I have an XC90 in addition to the Prius) is the comfortable seats. If it had been possible to truly integrate a Volvo seat into the Prius (and have the side impact airbag still be able to operate, I would have seriously considered the modification. The one thing that I wish the Prius had is the 8 way adjustable (and heated) seats of the Volvo. Add in the WHIPS (whiplash injury reduction) function, and the Prius with Volvo seats would probably be one very safe car - certainly better than the Prius or Volvo S40 as they come direct from the factory.

But instead a tantrum :rant: is thrown.

 

Damn those cached copies! :rant:

 

My recollection of the original post included a section boxed in with a line of x's above and below it. Boo probably has it just right. I came to the thread after it had been modified by to OP.

Now on another subject. We need to stop the name calling. Just on this page alone the OP is called childish, immature and puerile. One of my original attractions to PriusChat was that the general level of grammar exceeds other sites. It would be a shame to counter that with less than polite discourse.

 

Oh, NO! Don't wish for that. With some men who hit 60 or so the bodily cushion from the butt redistributes itself to the belly. This results in a chronic inability to keep pants up. Also chairs become the enemy. It just plain hurts to sit for any length of time on wooden chairs.

Toyota does have their seats on the firm side. I might go for a Volvo seat if it was a reasonable installation.

 

Thank you, efusco, for your reasonable, considered and polite response.

I think this whole thread illustrates what makes forums such as this work well (most of the time): we are a community of like-minded people, who like discussing all aspects of what we like (i.e., Priuses/Prii and hybrid vehicles). We may not agree on everything, indeed we may strongly disagree, and we are entitled to our opinion. However, the unwritten rule that (thankfully) the vast majority of people follow is that common courtesy and respect should prevail in any sort of response that we make.

It's unfortunate that the OP chose to take offense at some of the posts when really he didn't need to. We could have had a lively, thoughtful discussion about replacement Prius seats, and the potential advantages and pitfalls of doing this. The issue of what to do with the side airbag is highly relevant to discuss in this context, since most (if not all) NHW20 Prius models come standard with seat-mounted thorax airbags. The OP may be highly skeptical about the efficacy of airbags, but many people who decide to replace the seats may in fact overlook the airbag issue, if it wasn't for forums like this. I am sure most people would rather be informed of the potential safety risks of disabling an airbag or replacing it with a different one -- at least they can make an informed choice if they decide to replace the seat.

I'm sure we could have agreed to disagree about the airbags, and just keep moving along, and provide helpful information to those interested. No one was stopping the OP from doing the Volvo seat project, and like I said in an earlier post, it's his Prius, and he's free to do whatever he likes with it!

So really, at the end of the day, if the OP couldn't accept that people have different opinions to him, or didn't like the fact that people like to expand, elaborate and discuss the issues raised, then a public forum is the wrong place for him to post his remarks.

As for the "cracker box" comment, I'm not in the least offended - our Metallic Silver NHW20 Prius i-Tech is our pride and joy. Besides, the EuroNCAP program gives it a five-star safety rating, so I'm comfortable enough with that.

I'm just a bit curious as to why the OP keeps driving a Prius when he obviously thinks so poorly of it......

 

Well don't be combative. My comments are meant as constructive. Name calling is not a positive.

Let's move on.

 

Dam it all, I wanted to see those seats in his Prius!
Thanks to those who stepped all over his thread and turned the subject into an air bag debate!

 

I've been thinking of driving from New York City to Madison WI in July for Hybridfest 2008.

A Volvo seat for that journey and beyond sure would be nice.

 

I wanted to see how it came out too. It's not something I would do, since the stock seats are fine for me, but it is an interesting project. Too bad the OP couldn't have said "Thanks for the input. I realize there is some risk, but I find it acceptable; now we were talking about Volvo seats..."

Tom

 

Problem Child, would you kindly reconsider posting pictures of your completed seat swap?
IMO the air bag is a non issue.