Open thread: Ask Danny your Prius c questions

Having SKS now, I would repeat some little curse to myself each time I had to find a key to get in or start the car. So it would be Three or Four for us if we put a c in the stable which is quite tempting.

 

Thanks for the response! Looks like it's going to be a trim III for us =)

 

What is the noise level on the hwy?

Must be very little to none. The G2 Prius is very loud, wonder if it can get worse on the c?

 

Thank you for all the info. We have a 2010 IV and about the only gripe I have is with the audio screen and iPod controls. My minor gripe is that the characters are limited per line and most info is cut off. My major gripe is that I have to scroll through every album/folder to get from one to another, and I like to keep a lot of music on my iPod.

Is there any chance that is improved on the Prius c? If so I will seriously consider the car.

Thanks!

Bruce

 

Were is the blank? Perhaps you could pop it out and hide it with a scangauge.

 

A bit lower than I'd want the gauge.
Oh well. I never let the three blanks left of the steering column bother me on the 2005.

 

Does the car offer a backup camera in the navigation system? It's the only feature I'm thinking may be missing...

 

Help me understand something. My 2007 Yaris had the same engine and roughly the same length as the Prius C. With the cruise set at 70mpg, my mileage came out between 37-38mpg. On the back roads driving at 50mph, I could easily get 43mpg -- but never at highway speeds. Performance clearly went down around 52mph.

How can I believe that the C will get mileage in the low 50's when it has the same engine and is roughly the same size as my Yaris?

Don't get me wrong, I want to believe, but I don't see how it can.

 

The two gas engines run on different combustion cycles. Prius c also has a superior electric transmission that allows the gas engine to operate at optimal state. It also has EGR to prevent gas waste at high power demand by cooling the combustion down with the exhaust gas instead of spraying in gasoline.

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@Danny: How did the Prius c compare to other cars (Prius Hatchback and segment B cars) with regard to noise (wind, road) suppression?


And did you notice differences with respect to the so-called slipping-clutch feel?



I ask this because the European Yaris Hybrid (as any other Yaris model here) has an acoustic-laminate glass wind-shield which I did not see mentioned in the Prius c press release. I wonder whether this has an impact on noise dampening.

I ask the second question since in the review by Peter Nunn at Inside Line I read that "only when you floor it does the planetary-type continuously variable transmission protest and deliver that wearying slipping-clutch feel endemic to CVTs" and in a Dutch (I am Flemish, and Dutch is my mother tongue) road test of the Yaris Hybrid, I read that the response of the HSD system is more direct, with less slipping then in the Prius hatchback.


@starbrite310: The European Yaris Hybrid will have the Toyota Touch Multimedia screen including a backup camera, a start button, automatic two zone AC, very nice LED daylight integrated in the headlamps, a specific front grill, and a classic dash. It will start at about 18.000 € all taxes included. In France, customers get a 2000 € government sponsored tax reduction! In the Netherlands, they get extensive tax reductions. It will outsell non-hybrid models, like the Auris did. In Germany, VW interests are protected: no reductions whatsoever. This is the United Europe...


For those interested, you can find infos on the Web, and I 'll open a thread as soon as I can put URLs. I am following the Prius c Forum because it is,very related to the Yaris, which is just a bit shorter, which is good in our crowded cities, and a bit higher, which is excellent for headroom. It's a pity we cannot have both, here, since I feel they do not necessarily target the same buyers.




Jan

 

I see the potential for a new product, a flexible tubing (snake-like) Scangauge holder that will snap into either the push button start or ignition key blank, with the wires routed inside the flex tubing.

 

Danny,
Did your test drive route include major elevation changes?
I'm seeing around 600ft on my commute.

 

Danny: Thanks for the review. I enjoyed it.

I came across this review, 2012 Toyota Prius C First Drive – Reviews – Car and Driver (Feb 2012) Car and Drive, the author have some concern about the Prius C horsepower. Can the Prius C speed up to 90 MPH? Some Canadian HYW speed limit at 85, wonder I can cruise the Prius C to a Canadian trip?

TIA,

bun

 

I'd ignore that review since they have a fast-car mindset.

My father (in the UK) owns a 1.2L (or less) Nissan Micra. He regularly drives at 90 mph. (My wife can vouch for that ). No, it won't accelerate rapidly at that speed but it doesn't have to.

The Prius c will be the same. It'll be fast enough for everywhere in the world, but it's not a performance car.

 

Danny,
I believe you are going to attach ScanGauge to read some numbers.
I would like to know following threshold numbers like I saw on my JP Gen3 Prius.
(speed is displayed number which is approx 7% higher than actual)

ICE on at 77 km/h from stealth mode to highway speed
ICE off at 73 km/h from highway speed to stealth mode
ICE off at 40 C from cold start to finish S1b warming up stage
ICE off at 65 C while coolant temperature is increasing with heater ON in normal mode
ICE on at 60 C while coolant temperature is decreasing with heater ON in normal mode
ICE off at 56 C while coolant temperature is increasing with heater ON in ECO mode
ICE on at 47 C while coolant temperature is decreasing with heater ON in ECO mode
ICE on below 40% SOC while SOC is decreasing for electric consumption
ICE off at 50% SOC while SOC is increasing for charging

Ken@Japan

 

bunanson. your question seems odd.. car and driver says it does 100mph in 33 seconds.. that means it does 90. they also said top speed is 105...


as for my crazy ideas on this from what i've been reading...

seeing it's basically (in my opinion) the same engine as the genII prius.. minus a chain, and i'm sure a few tweaks added... so it shouldn't have a harder time doing a lot of stuff the genII does. i do feel they changed the way the pedal maps... according to all the reviews i've been reading... it seems like they may have finally made it more "ride the torque curve" kind of car? danny, any thought on this? know how every current hybrid doesn't "hold speed"... it's either going or slowing... does the C hold speed with rpms? (better anyway?)

an example of what i'm saying is that you're cruising at 35 and you want a little more rev for the upcoming hill so you push a tiny further.. which usually results in a little rev jump with a slow increase in speed. does the C hold that rev a little better (basically just generate more electricity on demand) and keep speed about the same?... or does it act similar to the other hybrids? (car and driver says slight pedal increase just made rpms go up and no real noticeable increase of speed... maybe they just hate cvts)

 

Really? Where at? What's the speed limit in km/h?

85 mph = 136.79 km/h. There are highways in Canada with ~135 km/h or higher limits?